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Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by EgoIncarnate »

bionhoward wrote: post #709
Max-q wrote: post #118

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$200 is two man hours. So if you save two hours a month, you are breaking even.

No, because the terms imply you cannot actually use the output for any business purpose. How does this sail over so many people’s heads ??? If they do everything and you can’t use their stuff to compete with them, you can’t do anything with their stuff. That, plus the time cost, and the fact they’re vigorously brain raping this shit out of you every time you use the thing, means it’s worth LESS THAN zero dollars (unl…

From https://openai.com/policies/terms-of-use/ "Ownership of content. As between you and OpenAI, and to the extent permitted by applicable law, you (a) retain your ownership rights in Input and (b) own the Output. We hereby assign to you all our right, title, and interest, if any, in and to Output. "

Why couldn't you use it's output for business purposes?

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Post by jeswin »

I am surprised at the number of people who think this has no market.

If this improves employee productivity by 10%, this would be a great buy for many companies. Personally, I'll buy this in an instant if this measurably improves over Claude in code generation abilities. I've tried o1-preview, and there are only a few cases where it actually does better than Claude - and that too at a huge time penalty.

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by jjfoooo4 »

submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

I haven’t implemented this yet, but I’m planning on doing a fallback to other Claude models when hitting API limits, IIUC they rate limit per model

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by hackernewds »

throwup238 wrote: post #724
gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #715

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> Kagi Ultimate (US$25/mo) includes unlimited use of all the Anthropic models. What am I losing here if I switch over to this from my current Claude subscription?

Claude projects mostly. Kagi’s assistant AI is a basic chat bot interface.

but why would clauda offer this cheaper from a third party?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by hackernewds »

arcastroe wrote: post #644
e1g wrote: post #619

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Unironically, thank you for sharing this strategy. I get throttled a lot, and I'm happy to pay to remove those frustrating limits.

Sounds like you two could split the cost of the family plan-- ahem the team plan.

and share private questions with each other

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by hackernewds »

fudged71 wrote: post #443

OpenAI is racing against two clocks: the commoditization clock (how quickly open-source alternatives catch up) and the monetization clock (their need to generate substantial revenue to justify their valuation). The ultimate success of this strategy depends on what we might call the enterprise AI adoption curve - whether large organizations will prioritize the kind of integrated, reliable, and "safe" AI solutions Open…

There is really not a lot of Open source large language models with that capability. the only game changer so far has been meta open sourcing llama, and that's about it with models of that caliber

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Post by umeshunni »

submeta wrote: post #394

I actually pay 166 Euros a month for Claude Teams. Five seats. And I only use one. For myself. Why do I pay so much? Because the normal paid version (20 USD a month) interrups the chats after a dozen questions and wants me to wait a few hours until I can use it again. But Teams plan gives me way more questions. But why do I pay that much? Because Claude in combination with the Projects feature, where I can upload two…

Out of curiosity, why don't you use NotebookLM for the same functionality?

Re: ChatGPT Pro

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Post by hackernewds »

dudus wrote: post #512
Someone1234 wrote: post #496

Why doesn't Pro include longer context windows? I'm a Plus member, and the biggest limitation I am running into by far is the maximum length of a context window. I'm having context fall out of scope throughout the conversion or not being able to give it a large document that I can then interrogate. So if I go from paying $20/month for 32,000 tokens, to $200/month for Pro, I expect something more akin to Enterprise's…

The longer the context the more backtracking it needs to do. It gets exponentially more expensive. You can increase it a little, but not enough to solve the problem. Instead you need to chunk your data and store it in a vector database so you can do semantic search and include only the bits that are most relevant in the context. LLM is a cool tool. You need to build around it. OpenAI should start shipping these other…

I don't know whether using exponential in the general English language usage of the word, but it does not get exponentially more expensive

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Post by e-clinton »

beachy wrote: post #662
informal007 wrote: post #649

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This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

> It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model Bit of a cynical take. A company like OpenAI stands to lose enormously if anyone catches them doing dodgy shit in violation of their agreements with users. And it's very hard to keep dodgy behaviour secret in any decent sized company where any embittered employee can blow the whistle. VW only just managed it with Diese…

Cynical? That’d be on brand… especially with the ongoing lawsuits, the exodus of people and the CEO drama a while back? I’d have a hard time recommending them as a partner over Anthropic or Open Source.

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Post by croes »

jey wrote: post #655
informal007 wrote: post #649

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This remind me why enterprise don't integrated OpenAI product into existing toolset, trust is root reason. It's hard to provide trust to OpenAI that they won't steal data of enterprise to train next model in a market where content is the most valuable element, compared office, cloud database, etc.

This is what the Azure OpenAI offering is supposed to solve, right?

Why should MS be more trustworthy them OpenAI?

MS failed their customers more than once.

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