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Starship Flight 5: Launch and booster catch [video]

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Re: Starship Flight 5: Launch and booster catch [video]

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Update: SpaceX has set the booster back down on the launch mount and reconnected the "quick disconnect" hoses that fill it with propellant before launch. If they refilled it with propellant they'd be close to launching it again! Presumably they will be draining it instead.

Apparently the rails that catch the booster can translate in and out relative to the "chopstick" arms so the booster can be positioned and rotated to match the launch mount after landing.

Re: Starship Flight 5: Launch and booster catch [video]

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> is a ridiculously plain falsity.

It's well known in government that if you don't spend all your budget (meaning you were successful), your budget gets cut.

It is indeed ridiculous, but true.

Re: Starship Flight 5: Launch and booster catch [video]

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Robert Zubrin's Mars Direct would have got "flags and footprints" on Mars without needing something like Starship. He worked on a version of SLS in 1989 in Martin Marietta that would have cost $1B and been ready in the second half of the 90s and would be retiring soon after many successful flight to Mars (and to the Moon), but instead we got SLS and Orion so we need Starship to get anything done.

The Mars Direct book is worth reading not only for things like transport and mission design but also a wealth of other good ideas about how to “live off the land” when we get there too. Truly worth reading for anyone remotely interested in space exploration

How does this differ from his other book The Case For Kats?

Re: Starship Flight 5: Launch and booster catch [video]

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People on earth are experiencing the Jetsons and the Flinstones at the same time

This is what makes it bittersweet. So many comments here talking about this being progress for 'humanity'. I may be cynical, but most of humanity will get no benefit from any of these accomplishments. This is technology owned by and ultimately in service of a minuscule fraction of humanity.

better weather forecasting (launching and replacing the existing old satellites) seems useful. starlink has already been a game changer in communities experiencing natural disasters and is now coming to commercial airplanes.

so there’s something at least. :)

Re: Starship Flight 5: Launch and booster catch [video]

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Pretty impressive. The engineering team at SpaceX is really something. Some thoughts; The 'chopsticks catch' was amazing to watch. Seems like it adds a lot of risk and clearly the booster needs additional fire suppression systems :-) perhaps the tower could mount something that sprays the booster like the barges have for the F9 boosters. The heatshield held out for a much longer time, the asymmetric heating on the fl…

>The 'chopsticks catch' was amazing to watch. Seems like it adds a lot of risk and clearly the booster needs additional fire suppression systems :-) perhaps the tower could mount something that sprays the booster like the barges have for the F9 boosters. There's no reason to reinvent the airport firetruck.

The airport fire truck can’t control fires 250ft in the air

Re: Starship Flight 5: Launch and booster catch [video]

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Naive question: I obviously expect there to be flames from the engines, but there were flames on the lower sides for quite a while after the catch – is that expected?

It is common for Starship prototypes to have uncontrolled fires, but it is obviously not a good thing. For example, prototype number 10 exploded 8 minutes after landing [1] because of a seemingly insignificant fire at the bottom. After today's flight there was a long lasting fire in the engine section, with occasional flaming pieces of plumbing raining down from the rocket. Examining the aftermath should help SpaceX…

Scott Manley said it was a purposeful flare off of methane to prevent over pressureization.

Re: Starship Flight 5: Launch and booster catch [video]

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They're talking here about Starship, not the booster.

How does this logically make sense? They said "it looks like the heat shield held out". Where was a heat shield holding out?

On starship. Believe it or not, Chuck’s comment was about both booster and starship

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>The 'chopsticks catch' was amazing to watch. Seems like it adds a lot of risk and clearly the booster needs additional fire suppression systems :-) perhaps the tower could mount something that sprays the booster like the barges have for the F9 boosters. There's no reason to reinvent the airport firetruck.

The airport fire truck can’t control fires 250ft in the air

It's pushing the limits but it's close enough to existing capability to be a pretty easy ask.
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