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Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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> Can a single, childless tech startup-type person live comfortably walking car-free in contemporary SF, long-term? If so, how much does that cost, and in what neighborhoods? I used this when doing analysis. It's pretty good. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/comparison.jsp From a pure cost, POV you burn most of your money on rent and food. When we had visitors, I had to plan out my budget to cover meals for ever…

Thank you for the info. > In terms of security, If you keep your head on a swivel then you're fine. I had the same alertness that I have when traveling a foreign country. You need to be on high alert all the time. Are we talking only about having basic city street savvy (e.g., you're perceived as a savvy native rather than easy pickings, can spot the usual threats and risks without trying, and can avoid or handle the…

I don’t know where the original poster is from, but I am kind of scratching my head at their comment. There is basically nowhere in SF I would have the slightest bit of fear walking around with the exceptions of bayview / hunters point or sunnydale.

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Shifting offices is also a way to get rid of staff without having to fire or lay them off.

Incorrect. Shifting office is a layoff (constructive dismissal).

First time I’ve heard the term, thanks.

Does it still apply if the company offers relocation benefits and a reasonable time for (say) school transfers?

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SF schools and traffic are terrible with kids. Suburbs are generally much mellower.

I mean this depends on what specifically you’re optimizing for. A child in the suburb will need a chauffeur to get anywhere outside their immediate subdivision, and sometimes within it. Children are perfectly capable of taking public transit and using their two feet, though.

Kids still get driven to school in cities.

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Well, when I got up this morning I didn't think I'd be doing this today: > please use the original title, unless it is misleading or linkbait; don't editorialize.

Both names are linkbait. I think 'Twitter' is less misleading than 'X', so it wins the guideline on points. Not saying it's a strong case, just that it tilts that way. Others would call it differently and that's always the case with a close call. Just because you buy something doesn't mean you get to change popular usage by decree. There's a whiff of corporatism about that which sticks in my craw. (I am not, god help…

Ideally you'd do the same for Facebook. That other thing they call themselves is immensely insulting to a good word, and stolen valor to boot.

No, Zucc, you're not cyberpunk. And your overgrown jumped-up Ivy league hot-or-not definitely ain't.

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Very true. At least to me, a modest condo will be more than enough, as I've learned long before that tidiness brings more pleasure than large space.

I will get downvoted for this comment: Size of living area does seem to be highly influenced by gender. I hear many more men say they would be happy living in a smaller place. I never once heard that from a woman under 50. (After the kids are gone, they may wish to downsize.)

Men are just content to have less, usually.

Also, are these single men with hobbies that don't take up a lot of space like gardening or woodworking?

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Both names are linkbait. I think 'Twitter' is less misleading than 'X', so it wins the guideline on points. Not saying it's a strong case, just that it tilts that way. Others would call it differently and that's always the case with a close call. Just because you buy something doesn't mean you get to change popular usage by decree. There's a whiff of corporatism about that which sticks in my craw. (I am not, god help…

Ideally you'd do the same for Facebook. That other thing they call themselves is immensely insulting to a good word, and stolen valor to boot. No, Zucc, you're not cyberpunk. And your overgrown jumped-up Ivy league hot-or-not definitely ain't.

Well now that you mention it, the Twitter -> X, Facebook -> Meta, and Google -> Alphabet transitions are all kind of similar aren't they. I never noticed that before!

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Question from someone who doesn't know the SF neighborhoods... Can a single, childless tech startup-type person live comfortably walking car-free in contemporary SF, long-term? If so, how much does that cost, and in what neighborhoods? Reason I'm asking: the East Coast city where I currently live isn't great for software startups, and, on top of some crazy downsides of this city, there's a possibly emerging new downs…

> Can a single, childless tech startup-type person live comfortably walking car-free in contemporary SF, long-term? If so, how much does that cost, and in what neighborhoods? I used this when doing analysis. It's pretty good. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/comparison.jsp From a pure cost, POV you burn most of your money on rent and food. When we had visitors, I had to plan out my budget to cover meals for ever…

> You need to be on high alert all the time. Otherwise is it's a wonderful place

That must do a number on your nervous system long term. I live in NYC where I'm on high alert in specific areas at specific times that amount to maybe 30% of my time outside home and office. Otherwise I'm earbuds in enjoying something, or staring into the middle distance processing something on my mind. Both feel essential to my mental health.

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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Had a recruiter call with Twitter a few months ago. Mandatory in office 5 days per week. Among other things, an hour commute both ways to work was not acceptable. Maybe they will have better luck in Santa Clara. I don’t buy any of the flamebait reasons for leaving SF. Reason 1 is money and reason 2 is talent pool.

Talent pool is downstream of the "flamebait reasons" though. Maybe they're not moving out of SF directly because of the high crime etc., they're moving out of SF because they can't attract talent in SF... but that may well be at least partly because of the high crime etc..

Re: Twitter kills its San Francisco headquarters, will relocate to South Bay

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"I’ve never worked for musk or his managers — but I’d assume that if folks are high output he would not care how often they were in the office" I have and believe me it's kind of random and dependent on the mood. The problem is that even if you are a 100x engineer the guy in the bad mood today may not know or care who you are.

I can't understand why anyone would willingly take a job at one of his companies (but especially Xitter) at this point just knowing what's publicly known... but it's also not difficult to find someone who has worked for him and can tell you what that experience was like.

Any US company could randomly fire you for no reason and many US companies do.
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