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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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how do you measure who is effective?

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> helped those people along by flying them to non-border states

Are you aware this is actually what multiple RNC candidates were doing?

> 'he' did not allow silly things like the supreme court stop him from attempting to buy voters by cancelling their student loan debt

This is moronic. Farmers receive the most subsidies, is the RNC buying their votes by enacting policy? You could call literally anything "buying votes"

Your post is beyond biased, it's contradicting itself.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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I think it’s incredibly significant that the announcement came on twitter a network run by a prominent trump supporter. You have to wonder how that all went down for the administration to have to resort to that opinion. For many hours it seemed like the announcement might have actually been a hoax because of how unofficial seeming the announcement was. I really want to read on how this all went down.

Biden’s account is from 2007 and has over 38 million followers. There’s nothing strange about the way it was announced.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

The same reason we don't have a race or sex limit on the Presidency. We should only have competency limits regardless of any other factors. My grandfather died at 101. He was extremely sharp until he was 98 and on no medication. I'd vote for that 95 year-old over either of our current choices without hesitation.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

> probably Harris is the simplest answer And probably the wrong answer. I don’t see her winning over swing voters. Gretchen Whitmer seems like the best option to me. I’d enjoy watching her debate Trump.

Or, hell, Elizabeth Warren. She could beat the shit out of Trump in a debate, and has a list as long as you like of actually fighting for the middle class.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

I've made that argument. Someone that agrees with it is Jimmy Carter. My opinion is if the voters are happy to send a geriatric congressman to Washington to sleep through meetings that's fine. But he shouldn't be chairing committees and other offices. That said Reagan was suffering the beginnings of dementia during the last year or two of his presidency and the world didn't end.

That's not to say it couldn't have. The Constitution and its new SCOTUS interpretation places such a heavy emphasis on the executive branch that even with safeguards and a 25th amendment, maybe protecting the electorate from itself is warranted.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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There was never any risk of me voting for Trump, but when I watched the debate it became abundantly clear that Biden could not win an election. He came off as an extremely frail old man and I had my doubts that he would survive the entire debate , let alone another four years in office. I'm a pretty left-leaning person and I find Trump to be an overwhelmingly unappealing idiot in general, but even I had to admit that…

>He was still the moronic walking Markov Chain that he always is, but he at least looked alive. Off topic but I find this insult(?) a bit funny. Is it supposed to be an insult as in his action / speech are as predictable/determined by current state only, as is Markov chain?

I believe GP is referring to the way Trump essentially talks as though the only thing he remembers is the last three words he said.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

There is an argument that in a well functioning democracy voters should be able to decide who is qualified to lead them. It shouldn't matter if the person is 20 or 80 if they are able to fulfill their obligations and win the support of voters. With a well informed population and an electoral system that fairly represents voter preferences there should be no need for arbitrary rules.

Setting aside the argument if any electorate is really capable of making that decision - the world has elected many questionable leaders - the big question is "what if the conditions change halfway through".

That likelihood increases with age, and even the most well-informed population does not have the ability to withdraw their consent if it does.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.

Similar for air traffic control. They recently opted to not increase that age for ATC. All of them should have the same standard.
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