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if this account is true, Sam Altman is a deeply unethical human being. Given that he doesn't bring any technical know how to building of AGI, I just don't see the reason to have such a person in charge here. The new board should act.

He must be bringing something to the table as they tried to get rid of him and failed spectacularly. Business is not only about technical know how.

Microsoft. They are protecting their investment.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Not going to lie, he had me. He appeared very genuine and fair in almost all media he appeared like podcasts but many of his actions are just so hard to justify.

I have exactly the same feeling as I think you do. When you reach the levels of success he has, there will always be people screaming that you are incompetent, evil and every other negative adjective under the sun. But he genuinely seemed to care about doing the right thing. But this is just so lacking of basic morals that I have to conclude that I was wrong, at least to an extent.

I feel that this is a classic tale of success getting to you. It almost feels like it's impossible to be successful at this level and remain true. At least, I hadn't seen it yet.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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the whole technology is based on fucking over artists, who didn't expect this exact thing?

It's not just the artists, anything you do in the digital realm and anything that can be digitised is fair game. In the UK NHS GP practices refuse to register you to see a doctor even when it's urgent and tell you to use a third-party app to book an appointment. You have use your phone to take photos of the affected area and provide a personal info. I fully expect that data to be fed into some AI and sold without me…

Last time I booked a blood test it was via the official NHS app , not a third party.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Maybe I'm crazy but I don't think the voices are even that similar. I simply don't believe that her closest friends could not tell the difference.

I didn't think the old Sky sounded anything like her, but the sky they unveiled at the 4o event seemed super similar. While watching the event I was genuinely wondering "wait did they actually partner with Scarlett Johansson? That's wild!"

This voice: https://x.com/OpenAI/status/1790072174117613963

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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He has “The Vision”… It’s the modern entrepreneurship trope that lowly engineers won’t achieve anything if they weren’t rallied by a demi-god who has “The Vision” and makes it all happen.

Probably not wrong. Lots and lots of examples of that being true.

There is something to it. Someone has to identify the intersection between what the engineering can do and what the market actually wants, then articulate that to a broad enough audience. Engineers constantly undervalue this very fuzzy and very human centric part of the work.

I don't think the issue is that Vision doesn't matter. I think the issue is Sam doesn't have it. Like Gates and Jobs had clear, well defined visions for how the PC was going to change the world, then rallied engineering talent around them and turned those into reality, that's how their billions and those lasting empires were born. Maybe someone like Elon Musk is a contemporary example. Just don't see anything like that from SamA, we see him in the media, talking a lot about AI, rubbing shoulders with power brokers, being cutthroat, but where's the vision of a better future? And if he comes up with one does he really understand the engineering well enough to ground it in reality?

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

To each their own. I personally didn't get Scarlett Johansson vibes from the voice on the GPT-4o demo (https://openai.com/index/hello-gpt-4o/) even though I'm a huge fan of hers (loved Her, loved Jojo Rabbit, even loved Lucy, and many many others) and have watched those and others multiple times. I'd even say I have a bit of a celebrity crush.

To me it's about as close to her voice as saying "It's a woman's voice". Not to say all women sound alike but the sound I heard from that video above could maybe best be described and "generic peppy female American spokesperson voice"

Even listening to it now with the suggestion that it might sound like her I don't personally hear Scarlett Johansson's voice from the demo.

There may be some damming proof where they find they sampled her specifically but saying they negotiated and didn't come to an agreement is not proof that it's supposed to be her voice. Again, to me it just sounds like a generic voice. I've used the the version before GPT-4o and I never got the vibe it was Scarlett Johansson.

I did get the "Her" vibe but only because I was talking to a computer with a female voice and it was easy to imagine that something like "Her" was in the near future. I also imagined or wished that it was Majel Barrett from ST:TNG, if only because the computer on ST:TNG gave short and useful answers where as ChatGPT always gives long-winded repetitive annoying answers

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

#757

Earlier quoted context omitted.

if this account is true, Sam Altman is a deeply unethical human being. Given that he doesn't bring any technical know how to building of AGI, I just don't see the reason to have such a person in charge here. The new board should act.

It shouldn’t be forgotten that his sister has publicly accused him and his brother of sexually abusing her as a child.

I didn't know about that, strange:

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/QDczBduZorG4dxZiW/sam-altman...

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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It's not just the artists, anything you do in the digital realm and anything that can be digitised is fair game. In the UK NHS GP practices refuse to register you to see a doctor even when it's urgent and tell you to use a third-party app to book an appointment. You have use your phone to take photos of the affected area and provide a personal info. I fully expect that data to be fed into some AI and sold without me…

Last time I booked a blood test it was via the official NHS app , not a third party.

https://www.patientaccess.com/

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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What would happen if there was someone else in the world with exactly the same voice as Scarlett (or very, very similar) and they expressed a desire to work with OpenAI? Would Scarlett still have the right to prohibit its use?

That's a fundamental flaw with this sort of copyright. First come first serve and it's up to courts to "asign rights" so if you don't have that tough luck someone else owns your identity because their bigger.

People cheering for this sort of copyright are completely lost imo. That's not a world anyone but the select few wants to live in.

Nevertheless that's not what happened here.

Re: Statement from Scarlett Johansson on the OpenAI "Sky" voice

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Well, that statement lays out a damning timeline: - OpenAI approached Scarlett last fall, and she refused. - Two days before the GPT-4o launch, they contacted her agent and asked that she reconsider. (Two days! This means they already had everything they needed to ship the product with Scarlett’s cloned voice.) - Not receiving a response, OpenAI demos the product anyway, with Sam tweeting “her” in reference to Scarle…

I don’t think that’s quite right. OpenAI first demoed and launched the “Sky” voice in November last year. The new demo doesn’t appear to have a new voice. I doubt it would take them long to prepare a new voice, and who’s to say they wouldn’t delay the announcements for a ScarJo voice? A charitable interpretation of the “her” tweet would be a comparison to the conversational and AI capabilities of the product, not the…

I believe that "Sky" voice was first released in September last year and according to the blog post released by OpenAI they were working with "Sky" voice actress months before even contacting Scarlett Johansson for the first time.
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