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Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I'm sure "Bard" was primarily a Shakespeare reference (The Bard of Avon, frequently just The Bard), and I liked it too. An appropriate name for a technology that's all about language. Gemini sounds cool and sci-fi though, and maybe it's a bit easier to localize since it's just straight Latin.

"Gemini" must refer to its inherently multimodal origins? It's not a text-based LLM that was later adapted to include other modalities. It was designed from the start to seamlessly understand and work with audio, images, video and text simultaneously. Theoretically, this should give it a more integrated and versatile understanding of the world. The promise is that multimodality baked in from the start, instead of bol…

It seems odd to me that would work better necessarily considering that humans evolved different capabilities many millennia apart and integrated them all with intelligence comparatively late in the evolutionary cycle. So it’s not clear that multimodal from the get go is a better strategy than bolting on extra modalities over time. It could be though since technology is built differently from evolution but interesting to consider

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…

tbh your prompt confused the hell out of me. As a somewhat intelligent human I don’t know the response. I’ve never heard the phrase “in mirror writing”

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The risks involving hallucinations are too damn high still, and may always be. I had a similar line of thought with AI therapists. It could be massively beneficial if perfect, but the risk in seriously messing with someone's well-being is significant and shouldn't be handwaved away.

> The risks involving hallucinations are too damn high still, and may always be. Yes, but I think in the limited realm of people who otherwise wouldn't get any advice at all, I think LLMs could play a useful role. American healthcare is so prohibitively expensive that many people with potential medical issues will avoid seeing a doctor until it is too late to do anything. Checking in with an LLM could help people at…

I think we may see society settling on feeling comfortable with their doctor using an AI, but not being an AI.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I’ve been pretty excited to finally try Gemini advanced. So far pretty disappointed. Here’s my go-to test question - which even chat gpt 3.5 can get. Question: I walk up to a glass door. It has the word push on it in mirror writing. Should I push or pull the door, and why Gemini advanced: You should push the door. Here's why: * Mirror Writing: The word "PUSH" is written in mirror writing, meaning it would appear corr…

User: Which is heavier, two pounds of feathers or a pound of bricks?

Gemini: Neither! They both weigh the same, which is two pounds. The key is in the wording of the question. You're comparing equal amounts of two different materials (two pounds of feathers vs. one pound of bricks). As long as the quantity is the same, the weight (force exerted by gravity) will always be the same regardless of the material.

This is a classic trick question that plays on the different densities of feathers and bricks. While bricks are much denser than feathers, meaning they pack more mass into a smaller space, the question specifies the weight by quantity, not volume. So, both two pounds of feathers and one pound of bricks experience the same gravitational pull and therefore weigh the same.

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On logic it cannot handle the Dumb Monty Hall problem at all: https://g.co/gemini/share/33c5fb45738f

Incredible. Gpt4 spots that the door is transparent and that changes things but has this great line > When you initially pick a door (in this case, door number 1 where you already see the car), you have a 1/3 chance of having picked the car (Asking it to explain this it correctly solves the problem but it's a wonderfully silly sentence) Edit - in a new chat it gets it right the first time

This is not convincing though that gpt4 actually understands the problem. Here's a slight variation I asked and it fails miserably.

https://chat.openai.com/share/22a9027f-a2c1-428a-94a2-8fd918...

I wonder what lends itself it answer correct in one situation but not the other? Was your question previously asked already and it recognized it whereas my question is different enough?

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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I'm sure "Bard" was primarily a Shakespeare reference (The Bard of Avon, frequently just The Bard), and I liked it too. An appropriate name for a technology that's all about language. Gemini sounds cool and sci-fi though, and maybe it's a bit easier to localize since it's just straight Latin.

I thought “Bard” was an Asimov reference: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Someday_(short_story) (on top of the more obvious references)

It's too close a match for it not to be

> The story concerns [...] an old Bard, a child's computer whose sole function is to generate random fairy tales. The boys download a book about computers into the Bard's memory in an attempt to expand its vocabulary, but the Bard simply incorporates computers into its standard fairy tale repertoire.

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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In the 20 minutes of experimentation, I'm really impressed with the quality of Bard Advanced (Gemini Ultra). The results are as good as GPT-4, and in some cases is better. So far: pros: - better at translation (tried Chinese and Japanese idioms to English) - better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing cons: - slightly worse at coding - censorship is more annoying (have to ask multiple times abo…

> better at incorporating search results in its answer vs gpt-4 bing That's odd, I had Gemini repeatedly tell me it couldn't search the web in response to my question (that I was trying to get it to answer from the context I provided).

I haven't tested asking it explicitly to search, but it does incorporate answers that are very recent and unlikely to be in it's training dataset

Re: Bard is now Gemini, and we’re rolling out a mobile app and Gemini Advanced

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post #644

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm sure "Bard" was primarily a Shakespeare reference (The Bard of Avon, frequently just The Bard), and I liked it too. An appropriate name for a technology that's all about language. Gemini sounds cool and sci-fi though, and maybe it's a bit easier to localize since it's just straight Latin.

To me, bard just sounds phonetically gross. Reminds me of “fart” or “beard.” It calls to mind medieval stuff: the Monte Python mud scene, Skyrim’s most annoying NPCs, plucking lutes. But Gemini? That sounds like a legendary space mission; this collective engineering push against the boundaries of human knowledge. I do not have refined tastes. My b.

When I hear "bard", I think of this guy from the Asterix comics first: https://asterix.com/en/portfolio/cacofonix/ - who is notorious for getting on everyone's nerves with his constant singing.

> We are not talking here about the rain he brings on each time exercises his vocal cords, but rather about the prevailing atmosphere in the village: when it is time to party, when wild boar are roasting on the spit, you can be sure to find Cacofonix tied hand and feet with a gag in his mouth.

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