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Post by AlecSchueler »

sytelus wrote: post #628
AlecSchueler wrote: post #35

Easy fix since ChatGPT always apologises for not complying: any description or title containing the word "sorry" gets flagged for human oversight. Still orders of magnitude faster than writing all your own spam texts.

Why Amazon is not able to actually verify sellers real identities and terminate their accounts? I would imagine that they should be able to force them to supply verifiable national identification/bank account etc. How do these sellers get away with these?

Is there a problem with this seller beyond their tooling malfunctioning?

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Post by otikik »

jakderrida wrote: post #307
otikik wrote: post #266

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I have experienced almost the full cycle of enshittification. I remember when it arrived in my country (Spain). It was great. The catalog was very good. Customer service was very responsive. If I had a problem, they would return the money, no questions asked. We were foolish to think that situation would last. Nowadays the search is unusable. Unless you go to an individual brand's "amazon shop", you will only get pro…

> If I want Chinese quality merchandise there's a Chinese store very nearby where I can go and look at the plastic at least. You mean like the equivalent of sorting by lowest on eBay?? Like a Chinese guy I can walk up to and say, "I need a 120 foot HDMI and I will not be paying a cent over $22.43 for it because that's what's all the lowest cost sellers on eBay charge."

It's a kind of Chinese-owned, Chinese-managed physical store. It has a little bit of every kind of non-perishable product. From clothes to tools to toys to tupperware, directly imported from China. The quality is not high, but neither is the price, and they have an extensive offering. I think in the US is they have a similar kind of place called the "Dollar Store".

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Post by ryanisnan »

hackerlight wrote: post #624
ryanisnan wrote: post #607

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Huh? Why lean towards conspiracy? Trash sellers looking do dump volume onto Amazon are leveraging tools to generate volume.

> Trash sellers looking do dump volume onto Amazon are leveraging tools to generate volume. I'm not talking about Amazon, I'm talking about X. There are many inauthentic accounts with content generated by LLMs currently on X. For example: https://old.reddit.com/r/EnoughMuskSpam/comments/193jr8s/tha... Most likely these fake accounts are created by firms who are selling access to mass-likes/follows. They sell the abil…

Thanks for the clarification. I thought you meant the posts for these accounts was on X. That makes sense.

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Post by jethro_tell »

jatins wrote: post #674
ljm wrote: post #599

I love how Amazon has gone from customer obsession to the lowest of the lowest common denominator. Easiest boycott of my life to stop buying tripe from them. They’ve successfully pivoted from customer obsession to obsessed customers.

Does Amazon have no review/verification for what gets uploaded on their store?

Not entirely, they can't check every single thing, and because they inventory mix, if I have a legit product and you have a fake, once it's all tagged as the same, they'll send whichever one the system picks regardless of who's 'store' I buy from.

Additionally, because of inventory mixing, they don't really know who put the fraud in and who didn't (maybe they do, but they don't seem to do anything about it)

Additionally, some of the stuff on the site is not stored or shipped by them at all, you buy from the store site and it gets shipped from the vendor.

So no, they really haven't made a system that they can use to validate their items sold at scale.

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Post by water-data-dude »

JeffSnazz wrote: post #653
ljm wrote: post #599

I love how Amazon has gone from customer obsession to the lowest of the lowest common denominator. Easiest boycott of my life to stop buying tripe from them. They’ve successfully pivoted from customer obsession to obsessed customers.

> I love how Amazon has gone from customer obsession to the lowest of the lowest common denominator. Maybe I'm misremembering but I don't remember this halcyon time where amazon was able to distinguish themselves from competitors to the consumer via anything but listed inventory. Their website has always been a cluttered mess filled with spam....

What I remember being useful was that, when you clicked on an item, somewhere on the page would be a carousel with items that other customers who looked at that item eventually ended up buying/also looked at. It was genuinely helpful information that generally would make it faster to find what you were actually looking for.

At some point they got rid of that despite it being useful. I assume that Amazon prefers being able to control what you see when you search for an item. Now you’ll still see carousels and comparison tables when you click on an item, but it’s all stuff that vendors paid to have placed there (or that Amazon decided it wants you to see).

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Post by yellowapple »

adlpz wrote: post #696
JeffSnazz wrote: post #665

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Yea I guess I'm not sure what people envision when they say "amazing"—having an online store might have been revolutionary in 1994, but not by 2004, and certainly not by 2012. What set them apart was just inventory.

What truly set them apart wasn't inventory. Any large physical retailer could match back them. It was inventory plus ease of use . Which is customer obsession. One click purchase. Next day delivery. Flat fee shipping (prime). No questions asked drop-off returns. True, useful reviews. Good algorithmic sorting. Best in class logistics. It was really much better than anything else online. Now reviews are shit, searching…

Amazon's logistical side is still solid. Pretty much the only reason why I still give them any business... but independent stores are catching up on that front.

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Post by j2kun »

AlecSchueler wrote: post #749
j2kun wrote: post #137

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https://www.amazon.com/s?k=sorry

Hmm someone else suggested this would be an issue, but the overall percentage of products with sorry in their description is very small and having the human operator flag it is a false positive is still, as I say, orders of magnitude faster than wiring your own product descriptions.

I mean it works until the default prompt changes to not have "sorry" in it, or spammers add lots of legit products with "sorry" in the description, or some new product comes out that uses "sorry" in it, it then you're just playing cat and mouse.

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Post by iFreilicht »

sytelus wrote: post #623
sgarland wrote: post #616

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Light bulbs and batteries, I had to quit. Even if you’re buying name-brand, they’re so often counterfeit, it’s just not worth it.

Where else you go for online shopping?

In a few central european countries, Galaxus is a good alternative. I'm a little afraid to mention it here, because more users means more incentive for sellers to buy fake reviews, and currently one of the best parts about it is that I can trust the reviews. Many of them are well written, too.

But they do quite a few other things I like: If you choose that delivery is not urgent, they will wait for all articles to be available and send them as one package. You can pay a little extra to have the carbon footprint of your order offset. They have their own paid staff that answers questions on products in addition to the community. They pay their own writers to review products and write guides for selecting the correct product in a category, and they seem very genuine, it doesn't read like marketing BS.

So generally, I feel quite good about shopping there. And it seems their style fosters a community of buyers that care about buying the correct product for their needs, and wanting to inform others about their experience.

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Post by pompino »

cyanydeez wrote: post #718
pompino wrote: post #590

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Gasoline? clean water? Huh? We're talking about Amazon here. I find it hard to believe you're a real person. What a bizarre comment.

yes, we're talking about a distributor that unaccountably passes on merchandise. just wait for the digital equivalent of https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/tylenol-murders-1982

I've had this conversations with well meaning folks before.

The manufacturer of a product is liable for product defects, not the distributor. The seller/distributor is usually liable for accurate descriptions, etc. Caveat - I'm not a lawyer, and this is probably dependent on a bunch of other stuff and contracts, etc.

In any case, the reality is that safety incidents drive improvements in standards and enforcement and policy changes at the governmental level. Historically - car crashes, airplane crashes, water pollution, etc, etc.

Does this mean you need to wait for bad stuff to happen? - Not necessarily, but it does mean that you gotta have a lot more backing beyond "guys, trust me, this is a problem waiting to happen". If you can get enough people to agree with you, then you have some support to propose a change to policy at the governmental level, otherwise this is just venting on an online forum.

The usual followup is "people are barely making ends meet how are they ever going to have time to hit the streets over this" - Well, every change has required sacrifice and it would be nice if this wasn't the case - but that isn't how the world has worked so far.

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