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Post by dimask »

michaelt wrote: post #655
dontupvoteme wrote: post #452

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He's not wrong. DeepMind spends time solving big scientific / large-scale problems such as those in genetics, material science or weather forecasting, and Google has untouchable resources such as all the books they've scanned (and already won court cases about) They do make OpenAI look like kids in that regard. There is far more to technology than public facing goods/products. It's probably in part due to the cultura…

> They do make OpenAI look like kids in that regard. Nokia and Blackberry had far more phone-making experience than Apple when the iPhone launched. But if you can't bring that experience to bear, allowing you to make a better product - then you don't have a better product.

Phones are an end-consumer product. AI is not only an end-consumer product (and probably not even mostly an end-consumer one). It is a tool to be used in many different steps in production. AI is not chatbots.

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Post by ithkuil »

FartyMcFarter wrote: post #661
ithkuil wrote: post #652

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Why do they gate access at country level if it's about language. I live in Europe and speak English just fine. Can't they just offer it in English only until the multi-language support is ready?

Could be a legal issue, privacy or whatnot.

Shouldn't be hard to just say so instead of claiming it's multilingual readiness?

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Post by mewpmewp2 »

ametrau wrote: post #447
EZ-E wrote: post #362

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Investors are getting impatient! ChatGPT has already replaced Google for me and I wonder if Google starts to feel the pressure.

I wonder what advertising will look like with this. Will they suggest products in the response? Like “Top ideas:…” and the LLM’s response.

People will have problems they want to solve, and GPT can provide solutions that may or may not have a price tag.

In this case, it's just directing to the service you would have best fit with.

This can be highly profitable, because you are solving the problem for the customer with the products you are suggesting based on what they are looking to solve.

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Post by WatchDog »

TheCaptain4815 wrote: post #323
walthamstow wrote: post #32

Gemini Nano sounds like the most exciting part IMO. IIRC Several people in the recent Pixel 8 thread were saying that offloading to web APIs for functions like Magic Eraser was only temporary and could be replaced by on-device models at some point. Looks like this is the beginning of that.

Unless they make it open source, what benefits would it have compared to the tiny OpenAi models?

The fact that it's multimodal is very interesting, they might not make it open source, but if they intend run it on people's devices, even if they intend to implement DRM, someone will figure out how to extract the weights and get it running outside.

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Post by commandar »

thefourthchime wrote: post #572
bogwog wrote: post #499

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> Sundar's comments in the main video seem like he's trying to communicate "we've been doing this ai stuff since you (other AI companies) were little babies" - to me this comes off kind of badly Reminds me of the Stadia reveal, where the first words out of his mouth were along the lines of "I'll admit, I'm not much of a gamer" This dude needs a new speech writer.

Dude needs a new job. He's been the Steve Balmer of Google, ruining what made them great and running the company into the ground.

>Steve Balmer of Google

I've been making this exact comparison for years at this point.

Both inherited companies with market dominant core products in near monopoly positions. They both kept the lights on, but the companies under them repeatedly fail the break into new markets and suffer from a near total lack of coherent vision and perverse internal incentives that contribute to the failure of new products. And after a while, the quality of that core product starts to stumble as well.

The fact that we've seen this show before makes it all the more baffling to me that investors are happy about it. Especially when in the same timeframe we've seen Satya Nadella completely transform Microsoft and deliver relatively meteoric performance.

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Post by avereveard »

alberth wrote: post #457
EZ-E wrote: post #362

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Investors are getting impatient! ChatGPT has already replaced Google for me and I wonder if Google starts to feel the pressure.

> "ChatGPT has already replaced Google for me" Would you mind elaborating more on this. Like how are you "searching" with ChatGPT?

For search likes "how do I", "what is" and similar I'm asking gpt instead of Google, saves me from having to scan a lot of blogspam and referral tables and gives me direct access to well formatted information. It's got to the point I disable web searches so the AI is not influenced by the same. For example try asking for a restaurant with good food type with and without access to internet and chances are the collective knowledge summarised in the non internet answer is going to be way better than the marketing regurgitated to whatever is the big first response, albeit not as actual.

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Post by Madmallard »

Saw it stated somewhere “better than 90% of programmers.”

*DOUBT

Maybe at very constrained types of leetcode-esque problems for which it has ample training data.

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Post by Barrin92 »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #594
milesward wrote: post #136

This demo is nuts: https://youtu.be/UIZAiXYceBI?si=8ELqSinKHdlGlNpX

I'm legitimately starting to wonder what white collar workers will even do in 5-10 years. This just Year 1 of this stuff going mainstream. Careers are 25-30 years long. What will someone entering the workforce today even be doing in 2035?

>What will someone entering the workforce today even be doing in 2035?

The same thing they're doing now, just with tools that enable them to do some more of it. We've been having these discussions a dozen times, including pre- and post computerization and every time it ends up the same way. We went from entire teams writing Pokemon in Z80 assembly to someone cranking out games in Unity while barely knowing to code, and yet game devs still exist.

Re: Gemini AI

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Post by zamalek »

johnfn wrote: post #444

Very impressive! I noticed two really notable things right off the bat: 1. I asked it a question about a feature that TypeScript doesn't have[1]. GPT4 usually does not recognize that it's impossible (I've tried asking it a bunch of times, it gets it right with like 50% probability) and hallucinates an answer. Gemini correctly says that it's impossible. The impressive thing was that it then linked to the open GitHub i…

The biggest advantage of Bard is the speed, it's practically instant.

I asked: How would I go about creating a sandbox directory for a subordinate user (namespaced user with subuid - e.g. uid 100000), that can be deleted as the superior user (e.g. uid 1000)? I want this to be done without root permissions.

Both said that it's impossible, which is the the generally accepted answer.

I then added: I don't care about data loss.

Bard correctly suggested mounting a filesystem (but didn't figure out that tmpfs would be the one to use). ChatGPT suggested using the sticky bit, which would make the situation worse.

Handing this one to Bard, especially given that it generated more detailed answers much faster.

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