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Ya it's not like there's a real need for these companies to exist anyway. Most people will happily go back to sms messages and calls if they shut down. Not a big deal.
Ah yes, because SMS and calls are the only ways to contact people without giving your data to megacorporations. Services like Matrix and Jitsi don't exist.
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Removing the ads doesn't remove the personalized tracking AFAIK. The personalized tracking remains AFAIK. And what's the definition of tracking? It's not clear to me if links 1,3,4 are related to personalized tracking. For example, is TikTok remembering what videos you wanted for how long and showing you recommendations based on your watch history personalized tracking?
The whole discussion is about banning the tracking, not ads. Tracking is defined in GDPR as storing personal information without consent or necessity. > is TikTok remembering what videos you wanted for how long and showing you recommendations based on your watch history personalized tracking? Yes, if I did not give consent to create a profile on me.
That's not how I interpreted the conversation. The article says:
>a ban imposed by non-EU member Norway on "behavioural advertising" on Facebook and Instagram
That seems to be banning tracking for ads, but tracking for timeline suggestions and friend suggestions would still be allowed.
And the comment I replied to seemed to be about ads:
>>But are personalized Facebook ads really an example of this?
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They could still show ads without all the invasiveness. For example: advertisers could pay to place ads in specific Facebook groups and they would show to people visiting those pages. Like it has been done for decades in magazines and other physical media. The internet did not invent advertising.
There’s a reason why magazines ads are dying and being replaced by personalized ads. Advertising like that is widely inefficient. It’s easy to show ads. Not that easy to make money from doing so. It’s as valid alternative as telling people to use horses instead of cars to reduce CO2 emissions. They both get from point A to B, right?
Also it has been written many times, but the facebook feed has became total crap: for me 99% are ads and it does not show me any updates from friends. Faster is to go to profiles of friends then scroll through the drip feed that is not even infinite. Also the feed does not show things that I can see in my friends' profiles. But hey, some product manager thinks it is good for longevity of thr product. I can as well enter facebook once per month and manually open their profiles.
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ALL your private data sounds rather extreme. That could certainly mean a lot of things! Some examples of what I'm fine with: if I visit a hardware store's online website and am then retargeted by their ads, or I visit a hardware magazine's website and am then targeted by hardware ads.
My clarification then, targeted ads are fine if ai don't have to provide ANY of my private data. The site showing an ad knows the context of what I'm looking at, whether that's a specific news article or the weather. That's enough info for a reasonably targeted ad without needing to match back to my browsing history, who I bank with, my likely religious views or sexual orientation, etc
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> If you can avoid a company, the fact that there is an acceptable alternative itself says that the market is not monopolized and so there is less chance of abuse Avoiding a company doesn't necessarily mean there's an acceptable alternative. I could use no social media and my life wouldn't be much worse or burdensome. There's very little I can do to prevent the government from doing what it's doing by myself.
Sure one can refuse to participate in the "market" altogether but like I said, it is a luxury that not everyone can afford to have due to various personal/social/economic reasons.
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What's your view on their effect on elections in other countries? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_Analytica#Elections
As a professional advertiser who has worked in political ads, I can tell you it had no effect on any of the results of these campaigns. A bunch of bad people hired them after the Trump campaign because they bought the fluff too.
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Mind sharing a few examples? Would be great to know a few ad-free sources.
Sorry, in my massive list of bookmarks, I have no way to tell how I found out about the sites.