Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

Post by TastyFossil » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:18 PM UTC

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That could be any gaming laptop from any manufacturer., those are the only ones who still ship with upgradable RAM and dual M.2 slots.

Finding one with a decent screen for anything other than gaming is the trick. I linked it up there, but this is IPS with 100% sRGB, more brightness than most people need, 16:10 (vertical space is nice!), 165Hz, and matte ! Most gaming laptops are...not that. Maybe 50% sRGB on a dim glossy TN screen.

Post by specialist » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:19 PM UTC

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> I don't really like Apple, mainly because of how they handle the app store vendor lock in stuff, and I hate macOS. But I use an M2 MBP purely because I can't find any other laptop that has the same fast performance, long battery life, quiet fan noise, no heat. Buying their products for the same reason everyone else does is "liking Apple".

You can like or use a product without liking the company making it or its practices

Post by DocTomoe » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:22 PM UTC

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I guess we'll have to wait for benchmarks but I did find this interesting: Apple's PR release for M2 pro: "up to 20 percent greater performance over M1 Pro" Apple's announcement for M3 pro: "up to 20 percent faster than M1 Pro" (they didn't bother to compare it to M2 pro)

Sure, that's the title, but at least in this PR they immediately show a graph with a comparison to both. Presumably it makes more marketing sense to compare to the M1 family up front because most people that bought an M2 last year are probably not going to be upgrading to M3. They are speaking to the people most likely to upgrade.

Post by runeks » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:27 PM UTC

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The M3 chips are 30% faster than the M2 chips for efficiency cores and 15% faster for performance cores. The overall performance is still impressive and there is no alternative to M*s when compared with performance per watt. But others have caught up, for example https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-9-7940hs is very good.

I note that if those performance numbers are correct it'll still be a lot slower than Intel's Core i9-13980HX laptop CPU. The M2 Max was between 50% and 80% of the speed of the 13980HX on most benchmarks. A 15%-30% uplift will get it closer to the Intel part but still not reach it.

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Oct 31, 2023, 12:28 PM UTC

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How are you determining "equivalent"? I don't agree with your conclusion at all. My M2 MBA is 2.7lbs. The 14" MBP starts at 3.4lbs. That is a very noticeable 26% increase. 0.44 inches thick versus 0.61 inches thick is also noticeable. I have a 14" MBP for work, so I have plenty of first hand experience with both devices. The screen sizes of the relevant laptops are as follows: MBA (13in): 13.6 inches MBP (14in): 14.2…

The resolutions and brightness are also relevant: MBA (13in): 2560 by 1664 at 500 nits MBP (14in): 3024 by 1964 at 1000 nits MBA (15in): 2880 by 1864 at 500 nits I also would compare the 14" MBP with the 15" MBA" closer weight, closer display. If price wasn't a factor, the 14" MBP wins for me.