Apple shares fell 1.71% after the announcement of iPhone 15 and 15 Plus
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/aapl?p=aapl
The broader market rose. Advertising/hype-driven "tech" falls, real economy rises.
iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Plus
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#752USB-C means I can finally get rid of all these perfectly working cables. Anyone have the address for parliament?
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#753USB 2.0 on the 15 is kind of a joke considering it came out in April of 2000. 60hz, USB 2.0, getting a bit dated. I know a bunch of people will excuse it but at that price I think it's not ideal. Oh and RIP 13 Mini, you'll be my phone until I can't use it anymore I suppose.
Sounds like the A16 just doesn't have the I/O block for USB 3. They are using the chip from the last generation for the base model. Though to put this in a realistic context, I am curious what percentage of iPhones have ever, over their usage lifespan, made a data connection over USB. I suspect that percentage is low single-digit percentages, and -- again speculating -- I would wager they are almost always by users w…
> I am curious what percentage of iPhones have ever, over their usage lifespan, made a data connection over USB.
It's actually a security vulnerability to do so, I'm very cautious to never click trust and I wish there was a setting to disable USB (data) entirely.
When that dialog pops up which asks if you want to "trust" the connected device, saying yes creates a token which is exchanged between the phone and the host and stored on the host. That token has special privileged with iOS and can exfiltrate some data from the phone without user interaction (this has become more and more minimal over the years, with the original iPhone as I recall it could literally take a full backup like from iTunes -- and there wasn't even a prompt on the phone to allow that). That token can also be exfiltrated from your computer and inserted into special boxes made by companies like NSO which have in the past utilize proprietary exploits to basically privilege escalate that minimal access and exfiltrate data from locked iPhones.
I sound like a conspiracy theorist and I should probably just delete this.
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#754I may be an odd on out here, but I'm not a fan of the move to USB-C. I don't care about data speeds or charging speeds. I don't even care about durability of the cable as they can be replaced. I care about durability of the charging port on the device and every USB-C device I've ever owned has become "loose" over time. This includes my iPad Mini, so I don't believe Apples has found a solution to this. Meanwhile, I ma…
I’ve been saying this for years. Sure, USB-C has better shielding and can reach higher data rates, but I use my phone cable for exactly two purposes: 1) charging, and 2) playing music. Meanwhile, dirt and sand can get into the new USB-C cables on both sides now, and the tube design is less resilient to being stepped on or rolled over.
I've had several lightning cables fail from moisture getting from my fingers onto the exposed contacts and causing galvanic corrosion. The tube from USB-C seems to prevent that.
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#755So the only compelling reason to upgrade from the 14 is...USB-C, where people are saying the 15 (non-Pro) runs at USB2 speeds? This was one of the most lackluster Apple launches in recent memory. I long for the day when Apple actually innovated on this product line. Now they're simply treading water and only making good changes when forced to (EU requiring USB-C). I will give credit where it is due for Apple -- the M…
>I love how people are asking "what are you doing with data transfer anyway?" Such deflection of the principle of the issue
I think it's a legitimate question from people trying to understand the use case -- I haven't done a USB data transfer with my phone in years. I wouldn't want to pay even $5 more to get faster cabled data transfer.
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#756That whole presentation could have been 30 minutes shorter. It's a product announcement not an investors meeting. Show me the products. Make a sustainability PR as a separate piece. Get your name in the news twice. Seems strange
I for one don't understand how sustainability and a yearly release schedule can go hand in hand. Why isn't it a 2 or 3+ year release cycle? Remove the need to upgrade, make spare parts and reuse and recycling more common. Maximize lifespan of devices. Yearly upgrades of consumer electronics is a pretty non-sustainable idea. Imagine if every year everybody tossed their television, monitor, computer, phone, tablet, hea…
Yeah Apple has no leg to stand on in that regard. Making iOS slower for older phones instead of debloating iOS is anti-sustainable.
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#757> ”It comes with one USB-C to USB-C charging cable - not sure if it is a data cable, also.” All USB-C cables must support USB 2.0 480 Mbps data transfer, at minimum. There’s no such thing as a USB-C cable that doesn’t support data.
I'm always puzzled when people say that. When you buy small electric gadgets that come with USB-C, almost all of those bundled cables come without data transfer support.
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#758> A huge leap forward for iPhone with a gorgeous new design The reality distortion field Apple projects is always impressive.
I wonder if they realize yet how many people are laughing at them. Apple is rapidly becoming low status as a critical mass of people catch on to their game.
I wish I could be that optimistic.
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#759I would have much preferred getting one more USB-C port on recent Macbooks instead of the MagSafe revival.
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#760That whole presentation could have been 30 minutes shorter. It's a product announcement not an investors meeting. Show me the products. Make a sustainability PR as a separate piece. Get your name in the news twice. Seems strange
I for one don't understand how sustainability and a yearly release schedule can go hand in hand. Why isn't it a 2 or 3+ year release cycle? Remove the need to upgrade, make spare parts and reuse and recycling more common. Maximize lifespan of devices. Yearly upgrades of consumer electronics is a pretty non-sustainable idea. Imagine if every year everybody tossed their television, monitor, computer, phone, tablet, hea…
Just because they release a new phone each year means you have to buy it.