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Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by iggldiggl » Mon, May 08, 2023, 8:42 AM UTC

Eavolution wrote: post #357

toyg wrote: post #287

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As annoying as for Edge-loving people who then buy a mobile phone and are then forced to "open their links" in Safari or Chrome. But to be honest, it's mostly the other way around: people live on phones, and when they have to interact with desktops, they pick the browser that integrates with their phones in the most seamless way. Which means, inevitably, the browser picked by their mobile-OS vendor, since there is li…

Granted I haven't used Chrome in years, but I find that firefox integrates remarkably well from phone to pc. The menu of open tabs on other devices is invaluable to me (although idk if Chrome has this too)

Sadly it integrated even better before they rewrote the mobile browser and threw out every useful little feature that had accumulated over the years – with the old mobile Firefox, you were able to forward links from other apps directly by sharing them to Firefox without actually having to open them on your phone.

New Firefox is too dumb for that – you actually have to open that link in a new tab before you can send it to some other Firefox instance (and then close that useless tab again).

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by froggit » Tue, May 09, 2023, 12:51 AM UTC

dustedcodes wrote: post #6

I have no skin in the game, but even I am starting to think the obvious thing here: Apple and Google own the entire mobile OS market. They could literally destroy Microsoft if they started to hugely degrade the experience of Microsoft products on iOS and Android with dark patterns a la Microsoft. But they don't. So far they were competing by making their own products better. Microsoft needs to think hard how hostile…

>Have they just become content to be an old corporate software house who only manages to keep users through dark patterns and anti-competitive behaviour because they have given up on making products which people enjoy to use?

Change that from a question to a statement and it becomes one of the better single sentence summaries of the windows 11 design methodology.

Re: MSFT is forcing Outlook and Teams to open links in Edge and IT admins are angry

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Post by screamin_jesus » Tue, May 09, 2023, 9:46 PM UTC

grey_earthling wrote: post #714

rtsil wrote: post #672

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And yet average users fled IE en masse as soon as they had a (back then) good alternative. There is still hope!

I'm not sure they fled IE as such. They saw a link (advert) on Google that said “make your internet better” and they clicked it. Yes, some techies actively chose Chrome knowing full-well what the alternatives were, but I'm pretty sure the advertising produced much greater numbers. (Also, the techies who enthusiastically recommended Chrome were the same ones who enthusiastically recommended Twitter a few years later,…

Techies enthusiastically recommended chrome because it was by far the most stable and responsive and secure browser.

Prior to quantum, firefox was a dog, and let's not talk about internet explorer...