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Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by tlrobinson »

chatmasta wrote: post #353
mk_stjames wrote: post #277

I have some odd feelings about this. It took less than a year to go from "of course it isn't hooked up to the internet in any way, silly!" to "ok.... so we hooked up up to the internet..." First is your API calls, then your chatgpt-jailbreak-turns-into-a-bank-DDOS-attack, then your "today it somehow executed several hundred thousand threads of a python script that made perfectly timed trades at 8:31AM on the NYSE whi…

Pshhh... I think it's awesome. The faster we build the future, the better. What annoys me is this is just further evidence that their "AI Safety" is nothing but lip-service, when they're clearly moving fast and breaking things. Just the other day they had a bug where you could see the chat history of other users! (Which, btw, they're now claiming in a modal on login was due to a "bug in an open source library" - anyo…

> The faster we build the future, the better.

Past performance is no guarantee of future results.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by imtringued »

_yb2s wrote: post #574
jeremyjh wrote: post #471

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> If Skynet is really smart, it will generate media exploiting this blind obedience to authority that a huge number of humans have. I’m far from sure that this is not already happening.

Haha, this is near the best explanation I can think of for the "this is not intelligent, it's just completing text strings, nothing to see here" people. I've been playing with GPT-4 for days, and it is mind blowing how well it can solve diverse problems that are way outside it's training set. It can reason correctly about hard problems with very little information. I've used to to plan detailed trip itineraries, sugg…

I have a deprecated function and ask ChatGPT what I should use instead, ChatGPT responds by inventing a random non existent function. I tell it that the function doesn't exist, it tries again with another non existent function.

Oddly speaking that sounds like a very simple language level failure, i.e. the tool generates text that matches the shape of the answer but not its details. I am not far enough into this ChatGPT religion to gaslight myself over outright lies like Elon Musk fanboys seem to enjoy doing.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by mschuster91 »

chatmasta wrote: post #418
jehb wrote: post #370

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> The faster we build the future, the better. Why? Getting to "the future" isn't a goal in and of itself. It's just a different state with a different set of problems, some of which we've proven that we're not prepared to anticipate or respond to before they cause serious harm.

When in human history have we ever intentionally not furthered technological progress? It's simply an unrealistic proposition, especially when the costs of doing it are so low that anyone with sufficient GPU power and knowledge of the latest research can get pretty close to the cutting edge. So the best we can hope for is that someone ethical is the first to advance that technological progress. I hope you wouldn't ad…

> When in human history have we ever intentionally not furthered technological progress?

Oh, a number. Medicine is the biggest field - human trials have to follow ethics these days:

- the times of Mengele-style "experiments" on inmates or the infamous Tuskeegee syphilis study are long past

- we can clone sheep for like what, 2 decades now, but IIRC haven't even begun chimpanzees, much less humans

- same for gene editing (especially in germlines), which is barely beginning in human despite being common standard for lab rats and mice. Anything impacting the germ line... I'm not sure if this will become anywhere close to acceptable in my life time.

- pre-implantation genetic based discarding of embryos is still widely (and for good reason...) seen as unethical

Another big area is, ironically given that militaries usually want ever deadlier toys, the military:

- a lot of European armies and, from the Cold War era on mostly Russia and America, have developed a shit ton of biological and chemical weapons of war. Development on that has slowed to a crawl and so did usage, at least until Assad dropped that shit on his own population in Syria, and Russia occasionally likes to murder dissidents.

- nuclear weapons have been rarely tested for decades now, with the exception of North Korea, despite there being obvious potential for improvement or civilian use (e.g. in putting out oil well fires).

Humanity, at least sometimes, seems to be able to keep itself in check, but only if the potential of suffering is just too extreme.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by motoxpro »

93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

Check out Bing Chat/Search. It's been doing this for "weeks" now.

Also, GPT "search" is too slow for me right now. I could have had an answer on traditional search by the time the model outputs anything.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by Thorentis »

int_19h wrote: post #629
Thorentis wrote: post #580

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The DoD really needs to step in and mark this tech as non-exportable due to the advantage (or potential advantage) it provides in many different fields.

Russia is already blocked from ChatGPT and Bing; I don't know about China. But it's all security theater. Plenty of people use it with VPNs, and I know several who found it useful / interesting enough to bother paying for it (which involves foreign credit cards etc so it's kind of a hassle). I'm sure so does the Russian govt. In any case, I don't see how you could realistically block any of that without effectively w…

Not exportable often means just not available on the Internet at all. Due to a range of factors, such as the dilution of human content online, the inability to prevent bad actors from using it etc I would rather this tech never saw the light of day and was limited to government and research institutions.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by pms »

aiappreciator wrote: post #695
pms wrote: post #673

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However, is ChatGPT a solution to virtual assistant? I'm not sure, because virtual assistants work with huge databases of entities, e.g., songs or movies, and it's not really clear that ChatGPT can handle this. A couple of days ago I asked it whether it knows Dream of You by Camila Cabello, a song with hundreds of millions of plays, and it didn't... Furthermore, that database is constantly updated... It sounds like L…

That's because you used ChatGPT. Rather than GPT-4. GPT-4 has more parameters, so can remember much more obscure facts. I had GPT-4 analyze the ethics of some obscure japanese visual novel from the perspective of multiple characters in that story. It did so flawlessly. ChatGPT would have started making up stuff in the second paragraph because it couldn't remember what actually happened.

Have you provided the visual novel as a prompt or just asked about it? ChatGPT does seem to know more about books than songs, maybe because they are more often described in texts, while songs not, not sure.

I wished more parameters gave a generalizable solution, but research suggests that's not the case [1, 2, 3]. OpenAI won't tell you this, cause they have a product to sell.

[1] http://arxiv.org/abs/2211.08411 [2] http://arxiv.org/abs/2011.03395 [3] http://arxiv.org/abs/2005.04345

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by ShamelessC »

93po wrote: post #178

Holy shit. Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers. Up to date information and performing original research on it is huge. As someone else said, Google is dead unless they massively shift in the next 6 months. No longer do I need to sift through pages of "12 best recipes for Thanksgiving" blog spam - OpenAI will do this for me an…

> Ignore the silly third party plugins, the first party plugins for web browsing and code interpretation are massive game changers.

Sorry what? The base endpoint for these will allow you to do basically everything that OpenAI does with "plugins". Like...what? What is everyone freaking out over? Every one of these plugins has been possible since well before they announced this.

It's text in, text out. You can call any other api you want in to supplement that process. Am I missing something? Please don't quit your job over this.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by riku_iki »

int_19h wrote: post #632
riku_iki wrote: post #557

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> Now computers can understand language. "understand"

If I tell it to do X, and it does X, for all practical purposes it means that it understood what I said.

it was taught to react in specific way on specific word, the same thing you can train dog to bark on "quantum physics" phrase.

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by wernst »

infoseek12 wrote: post #733
pms wrote: post #673

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However, is ChatGPT a solution to virtual assistant? I'm not sure, because virtual assistants work with huge databases of entities, e.g., songs or movies, and it's not really clear that ChatGPT can handle this. A couple of days ago I asked it whether it knows Dream of You by Camila Cabello, a song with hundreds of millions of plays, and it didn't... Furthermore, that database is constantly updated... It sounds like L…

I think ChatGPT plugins may be what solves this problems. Does IMDB have an API?

Sites like IMDB feel like they might be in a pickle. What happens to their ad revenue if they expose their API and no one navigates to their site anymore?

Re: ChatGPT Plugins

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Post by IIAOPSW »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #730
IIAOPSW wrote: post #609

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Has anyone tried handing loaded guns to a chimpanzee? Feels like under explored research

The limiting factor is breeding rate. Nobody has time to wait to run this experiment for generations (chimpanzee or human ones). ML models evolve orders of magnitude faster.

Ah. Well that's easy enough to sort. We just need to introduce some practical limit to AI breeding. Perhaps some virtual score keeping system similar to money and an AI dating scene with a high standard for having it.

I'm only half joking.

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