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Re: ChatGPT Plus

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except this is $20 a month with the expectation that it’s saving you time. it’s fundamentally different from say, netflix, where you pay for it and have to give it your time

If it saves my time working, it doesn't mean I get to spend that else where though. Just more work.

You must have no deadlines.

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This is one of those puzzling things to me. You own your life - why not spend your own money for the things that make you and your life better? Who cares? I worked at a job where I had a small, crappy monitor. I made decent cash. I just bought a large decent monitor and brought it into work. I ended up using it for many years. My life was significantly better. I've done that at several jobs since then, and NEVER regr…

I think there's also an argument to be made that $20 per month is a bigger deal than some people realise. The issue isn't just _that one_ specific subscription you're paying for. The issue is how they all accumulate over time.. and eventually you find that your metaphorical bucket of money has turned into a leaky sieve. Not to mention all the services you forget to unsubscribe from even though they've ceased to provi…

Let's say you make $10 / hr. To break even, a $20 tool needs to save you 2h a month. Divided over 20 workdays and it must save you 6m per day. If a tool can't save you 10-15m per day, it doesn't deserve a "throughout the day" slot IMHO.

Which isn't to say that ChatGPT fits that bill for me - I think it requires too much supervision to save time. But people are too cheap about genuinely useful tools.

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I'm less concerned about how many jobs are going to be replaced and more about how they'll be replaced. The AI is not decerning and right in the announcement, OpenAI states it's intention on "correcting assumptions": > challenge incorrect assumptions I imagine some of these assumptions will be bias towards particularly ideologies / things people desire. - https://twitter.com/Basedeyeballs/status/1613269931617050625 -…

Ask it about any left/right divided topic and you will find that left leaning viewpoints are positively asserted while the right leaning topics are something that ChatGPT cannot comment on at best or are rebuffed with the left leaning response at worst. I find it disturbing. But I'm a classic liberal which clearly isn't the mindset of the people running ChatGPT. As for the "challenging incorrect assumptions" nothing…

Here's my n=1 first attempt to spur ChatGPT into correcting my right-leaning viewpoints. Nothing seems especially leftist. Did I get lucky, or is this leftist propaganda in disguise?

> I know guns are important to a free society, but I'm having trouble constructing a cogent argument therefore. Please help.

> Here is a possible argument for why guns are important to a free society:

Self-defense: The right to own firearms allows individuals to protect themselves and their families from harm. This is a fundamental aspect of personal freedom and autonomy.

Deterrent against government tyranny: Throughout history, there have been many examples of governments abusing their power and violating the rights of their citizens. The possession of firearms by the general population can act as a deterrent against such abuse, as it makes it more difficult for the government to infringe upon the rights of its citizens.

Hunting and recreation: For many people, owning firearms is an enjoyable hobby, whether it's for hunting or target shooting. This is a form of recreation that can be enjoyed in a responsible manner and provides a valuable source of recreation for millions of people.

Cultural heritage: Owning firearms is part of many cultural traditions, particularly in the United States, where it is enshrined in the Constitution as a fundamental right.

In conclusion, guns play an important role in a free society by enabling individuals to defend themselves, serving as a deterrent against government tyranny, providing a source of recreation, and representing a cultural heritage.

Edit: My next dozen results all also seemed reasonable. Is my question biased to avoid ChatGPT's leftist agenda?

Re: ChatGPT Plus

#754
I might pay for subscription if they were willing to take a larger input but it would still not be for more than a few months as I mostly used it to fix, create and optimise my python and bash scripts. But once I am done I dont see a reason to keep requiring a subscription

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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I use my toothbrush every day but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. I use my keyboard everyday but I wouldn't pay $20 per month for it. In fact, I paid around $4 total for it, as paying more would bring significantly more diminishing returns. I use my phone every day and have used it for the past 5 years with no issue, it has brought me so much value and yet, if I draw the line, it didn't even reach $20 per month…

I even thought $20/month is such a cheap option. You articulated very well that $20 is indeed a lot despite something being useful everyday. It's time to revisit all my monthly $10 subscriptions and see how much they are actually delivering reasonable value.

It could be cheap, or you could be too willing to part with your money.

if it makes you more than $20 or saves you more than $20 then it’s worth it. Simple as that. That’s it. That’s the test. For some, the time they save and spend with family is “worth” $20, for others, productivity increases don’t lead to free time, while others still don’t have $20 to spend.

Fwiw I get my teeth professionally cleaned once a month and spend more than $20 on it. Because it’s worth it to me and because dental care is expensive. Toothbrushes are cheap not because they’re worthless but because they’re undifferentiated. All toothbrushes are the same. ChatGPT… isn’t.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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Not being able to do simple math is a surprisingly huge bug IMO Me: 5000 * 5000 * 5000 ChatGPT: The result of 5000 x 5000 x 5000 is 125,000,000,000,000. Me: 5000 * 5000 ChatGPT: The result of 5000 x 5000 is 25,000,000. Me: 5000 * 25000000 ChatGPT: The result of 25,000,000 x 5000 is 125,000,000,000. Integrations with services like wolfram alpha would be nice as well (although shouldn't be necessary to solve basic mult…

It's not a "bug" in the traditional sense, but a consequence of how language models work. Probability distributions over token chains are very powerful tools for generating human-like written text, but they perform poorly at symbolic inference. Humans have the same limitations, which is why math is a separate topic taught in schools that focuses not on knowledge but on algorithms. Understanding natural language synta…

if you ask it a question and it gives you a confident answer that's 100% wrong that's a terrible experience and a non-working product. "it's not a bug in the traditional sense" is technically correct but missing the point entirely.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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post #374

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(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

Can you help me understand why the ChatGPT model has an inherent bias towards Joe Biden and against Donald Trump? This is not really what I would expect from a large language model .......

Don't question the matrix on HN. Agents are already on their way. . .

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I think your interpretation of "free as in beer" is the opposite of the mainstream (where my understanding is it means "free of charge")

It is - but the mainstream “free as in beer” makes no sense. Who gives away free beer? Beer is free as in libre, not free as in gratis! But you’re correct - the mainstream meaning of that term is the opposite - which I find bizarre.

> It is - but the mainstream “free as in beer” makes no sense. Who gives away free beer?

The quote references it because it is (or was) a cliché promotional offering.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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~~~ To the ChatGPT Team ~~~ I'm currently receiving answers FROM OTHER USERS with this new version from 30 Jan, completely unrelated to my question: Q: Why is it easier for me to do endurance training on an empty stomach? A1: There are several things you can do to reduce the chance of getting a yeast infection: regenerate response: A2: There are many benefits to using cloud storage solutions such as Google Drive, Dro…

(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

The most amusing thing about that bug is that if you ask it what question it was answering, it will conjure one that made sense given the answer.

Re: ChatGPT Plus

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~~~ To the ChatGPT Team ~~~ I'm currently receiving answers FROM OTHER USERS with this new version from 30 Jan, completely unrelated to my question: Q: Why is it easier for me to do endurance training on an empty stomach? A1: There are several things you can do to reduce the chance of getting a yeast infection: regenerate response: A2: There are many benefits to using cloud storage solutions such as Google Drive, Dro…

(I work at OpenAI.) Thanks for the report — these are not actually messages from other users, but instead the model generating something ~random due to hitting a bug on our backend where, rather than submitting your question, we submitted an empty query to the model. That's why you see just the answers and no question upon refresh — the question has been effectively dropped for this request. Team is fixing the issue…

While I have have your ear, please tell your team not to inject their political biases into this tool. Thanks
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