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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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When MS bought github many people moved to gitlab and started to advertise their gitlab IDs. I too put my gitlab in there. But ultimately, gitlab didn't catch on on a permanent basis: most devs still are on github, thanks to network effects. People removed their gitlab mentions. I feel the same with the "find me on mastodon" twitter bios: people will realize that only 50 of their thousands of followers can be found o…

This Twitter drama is strikingly similar to Freenode. A rich guy bought it, people started moving to Libera.chat in small numbers and advertising their new channel on Freenode in the topic. There wasn't a huge exodus, though. Then this new owner started taking over channels and kicking everyone out that had mention of a Libera.chat channel in its topic, forcing everyone to move all at once. I haven't heard of anyone…

>This Twitter drama is strikingly similar to Freenode.

Freenode is orders of magnitude smaller with a technical and picky user base. Moving from freenode to a different server is a much smaller move as nothing changes for the users aside from a one time migration. Twitter is a mass market megaphone used by all sorts of people with different incentives, and the alternative - Mastodon - is vastly inferior for the average user who doesn't care about Elon's drama.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#754

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4chan bans are notoriously ineffective. Since you don't have an account or identity worth banning, most bans are up blocks which are pretty easy to circumvent undetected.

That's why I said try. They could ban IPs or at the very least block tripcodes. I'm not aware of them trying to do so in response to criticism of moot or other owners.

There's screenshots floating around of people's bans for completely arbitrary reasons. Don't know if they're legit.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#755
post #588

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To be fair, this started way before Elon. Yes you could link to individual posts but as soon as you read through the direct reply a soft paywall comes up. Your experience as signed out user was - and still is - awful.

Requiring user sign-ins is a little bit different than banning all mention of other social media websites existing.

Yes, absolutely. I’m not equating the two. But I do think that requiring sign-in for “town square” public discussions is.. questionable. Imo, Twitter (and others, they’re not at all alone) want to enjoy all the benefits of being an open platform, but doesn’t want to deal with the implications.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#756

Worth mentioning that this policy might have suspended John Carmack for this tweet a couple days ago, announcing his resignation from Meta: https://twitter.com/ID_AA_Carmack/status/1603931899810004994... This is a very, very, very bad policy and shows with absolute clarity that Twitter is far from a free speech platform. Which deeply saddens me. Imagine how absurd it would be for Reddit or Hacker News to have a polic…

Carmack was clearly cross-posting, not promoting Facebook. Twitter doesn't generally allow long form posts like that, so it clearly falls under the cross-posting part of the policy. I don't like this policy either, but let's not make up reasons for it to be bad. There are plenty of real reasons.

> There are plenty of real reasons.

Name two.

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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post #741

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So far Elon's actions have consisted entirely of destroying and zero building. He promised a money market feature (which is a prominent part of Chinese mega-apps e.g. Alipay and WeChat), but there have been no concrete plans or any regulatory talk related to it. If Elon Musk is still serious about building a mega-app then he needs to rapidly acquire/launch a lot more companies in consumer spending sectors e.g. entert…

That's what amazes me. The path to attempt that was pretty straightforward. Get in control, make some small changes to accommodate as many people as possible, reassure advertisers, add some surprising features that start to extend Twitter and see how people take to them. Make it more about creating and enjoying rather than just outright fighting. No one wants their polarised-arguing app to also be their banking and h…

Even fewer people want their maybe kicked off at any moment due to the capricious whims of the founder app to also be their banking and housing app…

Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

#758

Banning links to Facebook? Really? This flying by the seat of the pants moderation style reminds me of friends in highschool running their own phpBB instances and IRC channels.. Also, Telegram, Discord, Tumblr aren't listed? Lol.

Actually only links to profiles calling for follow. If I understand correctly.

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Re: Promotion of alternative social platforms policy

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Still, the way this is drafted I don't interpret it as banning every single type of links but rather promotion of your profile of your content on another platform. It's not as explicit to me as you suggest. I guess we shall see soon enough.

Given that pg's Twitter profile's just been banned for indirectly referencing his Mastodon profile link on his own website , your assertions lack any credibility or plausibility whatsoever. https://archive.vn/ucUdh > https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34041985 >

Why are you aggressive?

This does not mean anything wrt my hypothesis.

You guys take this way too seriously.

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