Now if I could just get one with an ortho keyboard layout…
The 14 inch max with 64 gb ram looks fucking T A S T Y. If only my hands could laptop keyboard ={
MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
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Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#752I have been waiting on this announcement to buy a new Mac, but now that they are out, I don't think I will buy one. The prices are 2x a Macbook Air, but the utility for me doesn't match. If the 14" was closer to the previous 13" MBP price of $1500 I would be ordering one now, but I will be getting a Macbook Air instead. Note to Veterans: Apple gives a 10% Veterans discount on everything, including the refurbished sto…
you get +8 GB of RAM, +256 GB SSD, a much faster CPU, and a 120 hz display for the extra $1000
Is the CPU actually faster on the entry level? Both M1 and the M1 Pro have 8 cores.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#753These look positively insane . 120Hz HDR displays. Can be specced with up to 64 GB of RAM and a GPU that (apparently) matches a 3070. All the ports you could ever want and magsafe. I can't wait to get my hands on one. The notch doesn't bother me because it's literally more room on the screen. Laptops with the camera below the screen tend to have an uncomfortable angle that look sup your nose, and the design suggests…
I have a bunch of questions about the notch: - When you go "fullscreen", does the fullscreen window stop at the bottom of the notch, or like can you see the notch in maximized Netflix videos? In the keynote I thought I saw a maximized video whose height stopped just under the notch. - So is the extra notch space used only for the menubar? What happens when you auto-hide the menubar (which I do)? Is that functionality…
The "fullscreen" screen area is the 16:10 that results from subtracting the notch height. The area left and right of the notch is strictly for the menu bar and will be blanked out on video or full-screen apps.
I guess that if you auto-hide the menu bar, a black strip will mask the area.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#754I'm happy to magsafe back. Even though I usually have mine sitting on a stand, I'm just lucky that I haven't yanked everything off my desk at this point. HDMI I couldn't care less about, but I suppose it provides another way to hook up to my display. I use a usb-c -> displayport connector most of the time though.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#755Wow looks like Apple has abandoned every bad decision on the MBP for the past 5 years in one swoop. No touchbar, increased key travel, added back hdmi/sd/headphone/power jacks. Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.
> Plus bumped up RAM limit, M1, new displays, 120Hz... Wow.
They couldn't use LPDDR5 RAM with Intel chips. They wanted to bump up the RAM years ago, but couldn't do it until now.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#756So close. But that camera notch would drive me nuts.
Curious: does it cut into a normal resolution/ratio or is it giving you extra pixels at the sides of the camera?
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#757what's the general need for microSD? My XPS-13 has one but I've never understood why its such a big deal. I almost never use it.
Given how much Apple charges for storage, and the fact that it is not expandable, SD card slots offer a reasonable way to get more storage. With a starting price at $2000, this may not make sense for people who don’t need a pro level machine but were looking forward to features like this
That's exactly what I did - for previous Macbook Pro models with SD card slots you can find flush sd cards or adapters with an aluminum end that blends right into the case (you can still remove it fairly easily but I hardly ever do.)
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#758HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
I am glad to see the return of magsafe (and having two USB ports in addition to the power cord)... but if that's the only reason I really prefer the new 14" macbook pro to the much cheaper 13" (that extra "inch" is $800!) The lower cost machines used to get power and HDMI as separate ports to two USBs.... I wonder if future lower-priced machines will again, if this is a trend... The extra ports are literally the only…
> that extra "inch" is $800!
This is hardly an accurate conclusion. To start with, the screen on the 13" has 4M pixels (2560x1600). The screen on the 14" has 6M pixels (3024x1964). Technically speaking you are buying 50% more screen. The new screen is more dense, but the screen itself is pixels and you are getting 2M more (50% more) pixels. In addition to the actual better quality LED design which is the "Liquid Retina XDR". The new screen is also able to deliver 1000 nits of sustained brightness, with 1600 nits of peak brightness. That is compared to the 500 nits offered on the cheaper model. So again this is double the brightness (even more than that considering peaks). If that weren't enough, the 14" comes with adaptive refresh up to 120Hz. Again, this is double the 60Hz of the 13".
So that's a hell of a lot more than just 1" of screen.
Furthermore, you are comparing the base model of the MacBook Pro 14" to the base model 13", which aren't comparable. The 14" base model comes with 16Gb of RAM and a 512Gb SSD. If you compare the equivalently spec'd 13" model with the 16Gb RAM and 512Gb SSD then you are looking at $1,699.
So for equally spec'd machines, it is $1,699 for the 13" and $1,999 for the 14". This means the price difference is a mere $300.
But even that isn't comparable. Because the $14" comes with the M1 Pro chip compared to the M1. I won't rehash that, but its a significant upgrade in CPU.
So you aren't paying $800 for 1" of extra screen. You are only paying $300 for the difference which offers a major screen upgrade, in addition to port upgrades, keyboard upgrades, and a major CPU upgrade.
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#759HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
I am glad to see the return of magsafe (and having two USB ports in addition to the power cord)... but if that's the only reason I really prefer the new 14" macbook pro to the much cheaper 13" (that extra "inch" is $800!) The lower cost machines used to get power and HDMI as separate ports to two USBs.... I wonder if future lower-priced machines will again, if this is a trend... The extra ports are literally the only…
> really prefer the new 14" macbook pro to the much cheaper 13" (that extra "inch" is $800!)
It's a $300 difference from the 13" with equivalent SSD & memory specs (nevermind you different CPU and screen size).
Re: MacBook Pro 14-inch and MacBook Pro 16-inch
#760HDMI, SD Card, and MagSafe. Things people on the internet inclusive but not limited to HN said they will never come back because the future is USB-C. Now I just want to know if the new keyboard has more key travel distance back to the like of MacBook Pro 2015. In case anyone wants to know the thickness difference. MacBook Pro 13" 2015 - 1.8 cm MacBook Pro 13" 2016 - 1.49 / 1.55 cm MacBook Pro 14" / 16" 2021 - 1.55 /…
Some basic math makes believe the Monterey menu bar might be 74px height. (3456 * 10/16)-2234 = -74 (3024 * 10/16)-1964 = -74 Which means both models have a 16:10 ratio + 74 extra pixels in heigh. Clearly they are adding stuff for the notch instead of clipping from useful area...
It would still feel like it is clipped, regardless of the actual gain in pixels.