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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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Hot take: this, as some like Ars Technica have observed, stands a decent chance of being a real game changer. Everything about this vehicle launch appears masterful, from its technology to its branding to the obvious care taken to ensure that in almost every respect it is so superior, and offers so many no-brainers, as to make anyone who can (both individuals and especially, fleet managers), buy these as fast they ca…

The biggest by far IMO is its ability to power high voltage high draw tools at the jobsite.

I have a TIG welder and a solid state linear amplifier that I'd love to be able to power from my truck instead of from a generator.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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> burn your house down while wearing a MAGA hat or something. That's not what I saw last year and this year on news channel. I saw "mostly peaceful" protests, or so CNN/WaPo/NYT/MSNBC/ABC told me, from justice warriors. And I don't why those media were not sticking to the truth, as everything has been peaceful. Just as my trusted author of The 1619 Project said: "Destroying property, which can be replaced, is not vio…

Since when stating facts deserves downvote? Did the media not say the protests were "most peaceful"? Was it not CNN reporter who said the exact words in front of a burning building? Did Nicole Hanna-Jones not say "Destroying property, which can be replaced, is not violence"? Was it not justice warriors (I use it as a neutral word, as it does not makes sense to use left vs right) who protested last year? What did I mi…

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Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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People are overlooking the CT saying its a lifestyle vehicle. Its gonna be lighter (unibody, structural pack, megacastings), more efficient (triangle for aero), and have better range per cost of vehicle. That has to mean something for fleet managers looking at cost. The design looks avante-guard from a consumer perspective, but its a result of making it more functional and easier to manufacture which is hard to argue…

lets see if it even ships in 2022.

Currently Tesla cars are the only practical EVs on the market.

We'll see how the F150 pans out, but I'm more hesitant in Ford's ability to deliver than Tesla continuing to deliver.

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Ironically, the frunk on electric trucks is a game-changer. Complementing the bed with an enclosed, waterproof, secure place to carry things (and no mucking around with insecure bed covers) is a killer feature. No more springing for a crew cab just to carry groceries in the rear seats. In terms of practical carrying capacity this dominates an SUV.

You'll probably continue to see camper shells in California due to the absolutely insane registration rules.

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I’ve lived in rural communities for 95% of my life. There are times when I really think that electoral college is obsolete and should go away, but all it takes is a thread like this where I just see comments from adults that seem wholly uninformed and underexposed to basic aspects of living outside of metropolitan environments. Yes, by itself, doesn’t really bother me as I am certainly a group of the inverse in many…

So are you in essence stating that because metropolitan people do not understand the needs of rural life that they deserve for their votes to continue to be worth less? Even despite rural people not understanding metropolitan life to the same degree?

There’s a fairly well established pattern that direct democracies are not friendly to minority intersts. US being a republic creates a buffer there, but it would just slow the inevitable in a popular vote.

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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> Available Ford Intelligent Backup Power, enabled by the 80-amp Ford Charge Station Pro, allows you to use your truck as a backup power source to your home during a power outage. * The power transfer can be triggered automatically or manually based on customer preference.

Good, now maybe Tesla will offer that too. Last I checked they didn't because of warranty concerns on the battery. They don't want you using the vehicle to arbitrage electricity prices. Which is probably not worth the wear anyway. But as an emergency backup or place to store surplus solar energy - now that's useful.

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Ironically, the frunk on electric trucks is a game-changer. Complementing the bed with an enclosed, waterproof, secure place to carry things (and no mucking around with insecure bed covers) is a killer feature. No more springing for a crew cab just to carry groceries in the rear seats. In terms of practical carrying capacity this dominates an SUV.

That's what I was most excited about, and agree it is a game changer. Hopefully we can get small e-pickups at some point - I have a 2004 Toyota Tacoma that I love, and it would be amazing with a frunk, but you can't really get small pickups that size anymore.

Ford is supposedly coming out with a smaller pickup, the Ford Maverick, that I think is similar in size to the old Ranger.

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Ironically, the frunk on electric trucks is a game-changer. Complementing the bed with an enclosed, waterproof, secure place to carry things (and no mucking around with insecure bed covers) is a killer feature. No more springing for a crew cab just to carry groceries in the rear seats. In terms of practical carrying capacity this dominates an SUV.

You'll probably continue to see camper shells in California due to the absolutely insane registration rules.

Please elaborate

Re: 2022 Ford F-150 Lightning

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I'm really happy Ford and others are starting to actually deliver on EV's. I do however think there will be a long list of issues as they scale the roll out, given the newness and complexity of this product. Here are some concerns I think people should be aware of: 1. No comprehensive supercharger network. This is a real big deal still. Using existing non-supercharging networks is not feasible for any long distance.…

> No comprehensive supercharger network.

Agreed. I've been driving a Leaf since 2015 (two different generations by now) and the main reason that makes road trips unpalatable is NOT range. Not at all. Charging more often? Sure, whatever. Unless it's a business trip or a trip across the country it's fine. I've discovered some stuff I'd probably would never have otherwise, by routing via chargers in small towns.

No, the problem is how sparse some quickchargers are, and the fact that many don't even work - and the best you can do is check comments to see if people have complained about them recently. Some of them (specially Nissan owned!) are located in places that _close at night_. That's not acceptable, we can find 24/7 gas stations almost everywhere.

However, that only accounts for 0.1% of my trips. I've optimized for the most common use-case (city driving) and don't regret that one bit.

> If you've ever driven a Tesla on a highway you know you'll not get the full 230 at highspeeds.

Yeap. Same way you won't get good mileage on any car if you do that. Thankfully liquid fuels have a ridiculous amount of energy, so we can afford to waste 70% as heat plus drag and the only real consequence is the wallet (and filling up more often).

US highway speeds are crazy and it is indeed shocking when you see it the first time. It would also be quite shocking on ICE cars too, but they don't have accurate fuel gages, let alone accurate range estimates. At least most don't.

> I wish them all the best with this amazing migration to electric vehicles.

Me too!

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