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Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by chki »

baumy wrote: post #411
fabian2k wrote: post #374

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You have a 0.5-1.0% chance to die from COVID-19, a higher chance to be hospitalized and experience serious consequences from that. And the chance to contract the disease is very, very high in many countries right now. The vaccines have been tested in 30-40,000 people each. The typical serious side effects for vaccines are something like 1 in a million or 1 in a few hundred thousand. Even if the vaccine had an usually…

CDC best estimate IFR for COVID-19 is as follows: 0-19 years: 0.00003 20-49 years: 0.0002 50-69 years: 0.005 70+ years: 0.054 So only age 50+ have at least 0.5% chance to die from COVID-19. These numbers also include everyone in that age range, e.g. the obese, diabetic, immunocompromised. If you know you are healthy, your odds are better. As a healthy 27 year old and something of a fitness fanatic, my odds appear to…

Sure that's possible and you are well within your rights to choose this path of action.

But – excuse me for putting this bluntly – it is obviously very selfish. If everybody calculated their risk like you do, the result would be that the pandemic drags on for a few years, a lot of preventable deaths happen + probably a terrible economic downturn. You have the choice to sacrifice a little bit (meaning a tiny chance of vaccine complications) of your own health for the greater good – or you can slack of others doing it for you. Because that's what's going to happen, most people voting "yes" on this thread are making the same calculation you are but deciding to sacrifice a little bit of their own health.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by [deleted] »

stochastic_flow wrote: post #739
petertodd wrote: post #707

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It's my civic duty not to, because people are trying to make it mandatory and we have to set a precedent that mandating it is unacceptable. I honestly think I would have said otherwise a year ago. But after seeing the mishandling of COVID-19, I no longer have faith in my countries ability to use emergency powers scientifically.

I have become more and more skeptic regarding our governments. The people who failed to protect us and the economy, now are going to "sell" us the solution. Where is their part of the accountability of what's happening? I have invested in big-tech and bio-pharma companies, so I should be happy, but I am not. I cannot be happy when so many people are closing their small businesses and so many others die because of how…

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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by emmelaich »

CyberDildonics wrote: post #737
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #238

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> nobody in Germany or France has been vaccinated as there are no approved vaccines Which creates a force field around the warehouses in which it sits? Come on. I guess I’ll revise to I know of people with substantial resources, hundreds of millions and billions at their disposal, who have been injected with something they believe to be the Pfizer vaccine.

To be clear, you know multiple super rich people that were able to get a vaccine out of a -70C warehouse and keep it refrigerated while it was delivered to them?

A more promising vaccine was developed in January 2020 and requires only -4C

https://www.cell.com/med/fulltext/S2666-6340(20)30027-1

and has had good results in trials from March.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Post by davidw »

loosescrews wrote: post #718
chasing wrote: post #554

It's my civic duty to take it as soon as it's offered to me, even if there's some minuscule chance that there will be an averse side effect. That said, I'll likely be towards the end of the line given my health and occupation.

I believe it is your civic duty to not go around infecting people. There is more than one way to achieve that.

Yes, of course, and I'm doing that. But staying cooped up at home and not going out at all is pretty stressful in terms of mental health. I can't wait to be able to go to restaurants and travel and see my parents and all of that.

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Post by interestica »

Is there a mathematically optimal means for distribution? (eg, 2 persons in every household or somehow best spreading out to achieve the benefits of herd immunity). I'm not in the most vulnerable group, so I'm okay with waiting. But I wonder if targeting 'likely vectors' would be most effective. Administer in airports for anyone incoming?

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Post by rglullis »

mensetmanusman wrote: post #744
rglullis wrote: post #644

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The last thing we should want in our bodies is "new technology". This is not a gadget for you to be excited about. This is not a Captain America or Spider-man origin story. This is someone writing code in most complex language you can think of and testing it in production without any way to do a roll-back.

The virus is mRNA telling your body to make more, the vaccine is mRNA telling your body to make a small useless spike. Our bodies are amazing in their resiliency, we are constantly reading mistaken mRNA throughout our lives. This is a great breakthrough to be able to use this to our advantage.

> Our bodies are amazing in their resiliency

Collectively, sure. Individually, each potential source of error and unexpected stressor can act differently and cause the complete opposite effect of what was desired.

Just by virtue of its novelty, any "breakthrough" brings so much uncertainty and unbounded risks. It is irrational and downright dangerous to think that individuals should accept these tail risks just because on the average things look good.

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Post by vl »

hedora wrote: post #713
h3cate wrote: post #291

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Also people with allergies. This was found out after two people that got the vaccine had allergic reactions to it (no idea how severe)...

Those two had severe pre-existing allergies (to the point where they carry epi pens), and had non-fatal reactions to the vaccine. If you’re in the 0.1% of the population with severe allergies, you should skip most vaccines. Herd immunity is a thing, and (most — probably these) vaccines will protect you by making the people around you stop spreading it. If you’re in this category, you’d have already been told so by yo…

If they were “said so by their doctors”, how come they still were injected by the doctors?

Also, most people carrying epi-pens don’t know full severity of their allergies since there is no way to test it.

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