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Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by behnamoh »

vernie wrote: post #478
ravenstine wrote: post #269

Slightly off topic, I'm finding it very disingenuous that people in this thread(and any other threads that come up about Firefox) have actually had significant performance issues with Firefox. No bugs that are noteworthy, sans that fiasco with the expired certificate that disabled addons briefly. I've been using Firefox since "quantum" on both my MacBooks(one of which is old AF) and on Linux. I've yet to have problem…

Firefox lost its only advantage when it deprecated its more powerful extension APIs in favor of WebExtensions.

Speaking of extensions, I really miss FireBug in FF. The new "inspect element" tool lacks some very important features like easy XPATH finding/defining which are critical for web scraping.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by auiya »

ravenstine wrote: post #269

Slightly off topic, I'm finding it very disingenuous that people in this thread(and any other threads that come up about Firefox) have actually had significant performance issues with Firefox. No bugs that are noteworthy, sans that fiasco with the expired certificate that disabled addons briefly. I've been using Firefox since "quantum" on both my MacBooks(one of which is old AF) and on Linux. I've yet to have problem…

I only keep Firefox around as a back up for when there's a one-off website that doesn't work properly with Safari. Otherwise Safari is my default. It just performs better than anything else on OSX/iOS.

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Post by chongli »

nothis wrote: post #700
Drup wrote: post #678

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As an alternative data-point: My firefox session is persistent (tab are restored when I open firefox again). Apparently, I'm around 500 right now, which is a bit above average for me (I usually stay around 300). Firefox's lazy loading is very good, which means I only have 10 to 100 tabs that are actually loaded. Firefox is still fast in these conditions. Since I use tree-style-tabs, most of the tabs are neatly sorted…

You guys seriously have _500_ tabs open?!

The fact that people do this should not be viewed as a personal failing on their part. This should be seen as an indictment against bookmark UIs. If bookmarks were friendly to use, people would use them instead of tabs.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by Improvotter »

mediocrejoker wrote: post #128
Improvotter wrote: post #117

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The only thing I'm missing on Firefox is when I am on my Macbook, is that fling when using my touchpad. It's essential to any MacOS app and it feels weird not to have it. I'm used to it on Linux and Windows though.

By fling, do you mean the two-finger horizontal scroll to move back and forward through history? If so, I miss it too.

I mean the bouncing when you overscroll vertically.

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Post by yogthos »

nickflood wrote: post #744
SimonPStevens wrote: post #727

I say this all the time when this kind of thing comes up. Please use Firefox! Even if it's worse. Even if its slower[1]. Even if it doesn't have that one feature or bug fix that you personally consider really important. Just use Firefox anyway. Find a workaround. Suffer whatever it is you dislike about Firefox because in the end if we don't act as individuals against the chrome monopoly then google are going to own t…

I think, this situation is the same as when you tell people to "vote with your wallet" as to not spend money on the inferior product when the issue is clearly far beyond where people can freely decide this. Edit to add: Not defending Chrome. I've used IE and Edge since IE9 came out because I saw this thing coming. And I promoted other browsers all the way. Didn't help. I am not moving to Chrome ever and will try and…

Except there's absolutely nothing inferior about Firefox nowadays. I switched about a year ago, and I don't miss a single thing from Chrome.

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Post by throwmeback »

brianwawok wrote: post #728
pmontra wrote: post #677

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I agree with everything but Safari was never a contender for the status of "standard" browser. It's a browser limited to a single vendor platform and a relatively small one, expecially on the desktop. Apple never had plans to move it anywhere else, with the exception of an aborted version for Windows XP more than 10 years ago.

I thought Safari for Windows was a thing for a while? Never really took off but I think it existed

Yup, 5.1.7 was released in 2012.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#cite_re...

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Post by tripzilch »

user17843 wrote: post #53
phiresky wrote: post #39

From the author of uBlock on this: What we see are the public statements, for public consumption, they are designed to "sell" the changes to the wider public. What we do not see is what is being said in private meetings by officers who get to decide how to optimize the business. So we have to judge not by what is said for public consumption purpose, but by what in effect is being done, or what they plan to do. This i…

Indeed, almost the entire ad-blocking market is controlled by the company behind Adblock Plus (eyeo GmbH), who has contracts with Google. It appears they also own AdBlock, and uBlock (not confused with uBO), so during the last years they basically tried to capture the entire market. The fact that Eyeo has >150 employees tells us something about the amount of money to be made from ad blocking. Although they have only…

> Someone at Google in the higher ups probably realized at one point that giving the user so much freedom and control could theoretically backfire enourmously.

That's ... well, so much for the internet ... :-(

It's really against what I imagine to be some of the core principles of the internet.

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Post by AnIdiotOnTheNet »

bad_user wrote: post #742
AnIdiotOnTheNet wrote: post #725

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Today it is, unfortunately history has shown that trusting Mozilla is also foolish.

Really? How so? I've been a Firefox user ever since the beginning and I can't remember once when they violated my trust. It seems to me that Mozilla is held to much higher standards in this community. I often see a huge double standard.

The Looking Glass extension, the whole deal with pocket, and Studies being on by default and allowing them to push changes remotely with no user action.

I don't use Firefox currently, so these are just what I recall from HN posts.

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Post by wlll »

SimonPStevens wrote: post #727

I say this all the time when this kind of thing comes up. Please use Firefox! Even if it's worse. Even if its slower[1]. Even if it doesn't have that one feature or bug fix that you personally consider really important. Just use Firefox anyway. Find a workaround. Suffer whatever it is you dislike about Firefox because in the end if we don't act as individuals against the chrome monopoly then google are going to own t…

I switched to FireFox I think about a year ago.

I prefer Chrome for sure. It full screens video properly (which I need to automatically trigger turning off f.lux), it seemed faster, it does spell checking of form fields.

I'm sticking with Firefox though as these features aren't much of a hindrance compared to the increasingly shitty behaviour of Google, and one benefit is that my Macbook Pro (2014, max spec), doesn't run out of resources and stop responding anywhere near as often as it used to do.

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