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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by anuragsoni »

claudiug wrote: post #489

given the new mac book pro, genuine question: What is the best linux notebook that close the gap with macbook pro?

I have been using the Dell Developer Edition since April of this year. There were a few hiccups because of some driver issues related to their USB-C dock (Correct me if i'm wrong, but I guess this problem was not limited to just their linux laptop?)

Ever since upgrading to Ubuntu 16.04 things have been pretty smooth. I believe any distro with a 4.4 series kernel or higher will behave pretty well.

Before this I had a thinkpad T series (I miss the keyboard, and the abundance of ports. It was really good), and I never had any problem with running any distribution of Linux.

In Summary: I think you cannot go wrong with either a Thinkpad or the Dell Developer edition. They are well made machines with good support for linux.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by dominsbeard »

projektir wrote: post #678
swang wrote: post #341

I have the early 2013 MacBook Pro. It is still pretty fast. Nothing I saw today makes me happy to upgrade as a developer. Sure it's lighter and thinner and HUUGE trackpad that's a nice to have when I'm traveling. But the TouchBar requires me to look down at my keyboard which slows me down. And they can't even leave the keyboard itself alone with the terrible butterfly implementation coming over from the 12" MacBook.…

Are there any serious drawbacks to buying a 2013 MBP today?

I wouldn't think so. I still use a late 2012 and it holds up great. Can't tell the difference between that and the 2015 one I use at work.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by usaphp »

nkw wrote: post #164

Wow. I hate to say it, but I thought the products in Microsoft's event yesterday were way more exciting than anything from Apple lately. This plus macOS Sierra seems like a whole lot of "meh". This coming from a guy whose first computer was an Apple IIe, who owned a Mac Cube, and whose daily driver is a trashcan MacPro.

While I agree that Apple event was unimpressive today, I wonder what exactly was so "exciting" from the Microsoft? That $4200 desktop with an outdated unupgradable hardware and a touch screen for the OS which is know for being horrible at scaling things?

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by hydandata »

Funny, the original PowerBook they showed had a mechanical keyboard and a trackball, things that are much more compelling, and definitely more useful to me personally. You know, as a professional programmer I sort of take pride that I am immune to all this "innovation" crap. It is surprisingly easy to do as well. Erik Naggum sums it up pretty well [0]:

"... they don't make poles long enough for me want to touch Microsoft products, and I don't want any mass-marketed game-playing device or Windows appliance _near_ my desk or on my network. this is my _workbench_, dammit, it's not a pretty box to impress people with graphics and sounds. when I work at this system up to 12 hours a day, I'm profoundly uninterested in what user interface a novice user would prefer. ..."

You can just plug in Apple here instead of Microsoft and the truth still reigns. Now obviously Apple is not targeting professional developers with their products, no matter how much you try to pretend that they do, just stop, stop accepting inferior tools for doing stuff that puts food on your table, no other field is as bad at it as ours.

[0] http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3065048088243385@naggum....

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by rootbear »

xxxmaster wrote: post #734

I am not sure if I have to pay so much extra money for fancy bels and whistles that do not help me as a programmer. I was really hoping for performance boost rather than fancy touch screen that makes me watch the keyboard instead of touch typing. What I saw from the presentation made my actually go back home and check what Windows announced yesterday, since I was quite disappointed (I actually found the presentation…

I have a long history with Unix (6th Edition on a PDP-11) and it was OS X that brought me to the Mac. I would hate to go back to Windows for commercial apps, except now there is the Linux subsystem in Windows 10. I was not impressed with today's Apple announcements and I thought the Surface Studio announced yesterday was pretty amazing. And expensive. My 2014 Macbook Pro may be my last Mac laptop. We'll see. I look forward to seeing what the next iMacs are like. I doubt at this point there will ever be a next Mac Pro.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by shorodei »

bnchrch wrote: post #745

I think there's one fact that a lot of people overlooked here. The new touchbar is optional. The new MBP comes in two models and one still has your typical function row. I do agree that the announcement was disappointing, leaving me questioning if I'd get a new macbook anytime soon. I would have liked some more ram but its not work flow changing for those of us who are already accustomed to mac laptops.

You also don't get TB3 without the touchbar.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by cooper12 »

stemuk wrote: post #424

How come all that complaining and rambling about the missing upgrades for the iMac or Mac mini? I really think that Apple did a great job at evolutionally improving the MacBook Pro under the hood, and the TouchBar seems to be a really usefull addition for creative professionals. Quite a fraction of the HN community really seems to enjoy complaining about what possibly could have been, rather than just beeing happy ab…

HN just loves to be anti-Apple so they can say they aren't sheeple. Every keynote thread here has had comments about how Apple stopped innovating after Steve Jobs. And yet every year they still somehow innovate. Comments like that show how deep HN has fallen into the cult of personality, that they actually believed it was Steve who was coming up with all of these ideas. So much for not being sheeple ;).

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by mark_sz »

Disappointing, almost boring event.

Almost, because it made me laugh when I heard someone saying "incredible" again and app called "TV" :)

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by blockoperation »

jjawssd wrote: post #590
ynniv wrote: post #143

Apple has replaced the MacBook Pro with a faster MacBook Air labeled "Pro". I have no idea how they could think that professionals would use a MacBook Air (no ports, shallow keyboard, no expansion, no innovative features, marginally lighter). A tiny ribbon display is completely useless to me. They removed the escape key. Twenty years of using Macs and I'm not sure what my next laptop is going to be.

I'm looking at Dell Precision 7510 series for my next update away from Macbook Pro 15 (2015)

I love my 7510 and I'd definitely recommend it, but the keyboards are a bit of a lottery (this probably applies to all current Latitudes and Precisions, as they all look to use the same boards).

There are two different designs that I've encountered, with one of them being massively inferior (noticeably mushier feel, and a weak point on the arrow key clips that gets worse over time, until the clip starts 'expanding' under pressure, causing it to get stuck or pop off of the board).

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by mixmastamyk »

sandGorgon wrote: post #74

Four Thunderbolt 3 ports that support USB-C. Any one of the four ports can be a charging port. /win Hopefully, this will disrupt the rest of the industry. The XPS 13 is a brilliant machine (IMHO better than the Mac) but why did they not use the USB-C for charging is beyond me.

> why did they not use the USB-C for charging is beyond me.

I believe it is able to be charged through usb-c but they provided the normal power adapter also.

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