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Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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ryukoposting wrote: post #82
3lpsy wrote: post #68

Maybe it’s cause I’ve never actually used it, but I really only care about a stable / well supported Bluetooth connection. I have a holder for my phone for when I use GPS and basically never interact with it directly after it’s set. Only real interactions are media controls via the steering wheel. The only use cases I can see car play helping with are those who take a lot of calls/texts in their car while driving and…

I was super bought into carplay and android auto until I actually owned a car that had it. Oh great, it requires USB. Well my phone is 4 years old and the port is toast, so that doesn't work for me. Okay, wireless then. Car doesn't support that. Lovely. Bluetooth implementation is half-assed and the pairing process is Byzantine. Terrific stuff. That car ended up sucking in other ways too. I quickly sold it and went b…

That take is stupid - I tried to use a feature with broken equipment so it must be the feature’s fault it didn’t work.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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SilverBirch wrote: post #353

>If Rivian’s native UI is so great, then their customers… won’t use CarPlay. It’s that simple. I kind of disagree with this. Airpods are purely additive, customers can just choose to use different headphones with their iPhone if they want. But they don't want, because Apple lets Airpods interact with the iPhone in a way that other manufacturers can't. So no, carplay wouldn't be mandatory but it's likely that Apple's…

It’s up to them if they stop working on their in house offering. If it is inferior, people won’t use it. Apple doesn’t have any leverage over what they develop.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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josefresco wrote: post #608

Personally I found CarPlay to be incredibly underwhelming. Very limited app support beyond navigation and music. In addition I frequently have issues switching which phone it's using thanks to terrible iOS BT and of course the ever annoying issue where someone is using the phone that is projecting, and your music suddenly cuts out to play obnoxious audio. The only advantage over a traditional car media center/nav is…

App support is up to the app developer as always.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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Telaneo wrote: post #423
cloin wrote: post #17

I’m not even that old, but I’d really love to argue to simplify the entire auto infotainment stack. I don’t even need a screen. I just bring my own by magnetically attaching my phone that I’ll use to navigate and Bluetooth music or podcasts. If CarPlay becomes the standard that allows me to not pay for whatever crappy tablet UI automakers are pushing, fine. But that doesn’t make CarPlay a necessity, it just makes it…

A rear camera is mandatory on new cars in the US these days, and it's honestly a good idea to have them either way. This makes a screen a necessity more or less no matter what (I can't see it being implemented with a bring-your-own tablet solution). That doesn't mean they have to ship most of the infotainment system though. They could just leave that hole there for Carplay to fill. But that would be admiring defeat,…

Slate handles that by replacing the dash gauges with the rear view while reversing.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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nickpeterson wrote: post #600

Is the mechanism through which CarPlay/Android Auto works locked down? Could a third party make a competing app for iOS or android that would connect to cars and run on the screen? Or perhaps a special piece of hardware to hook in to older cars?

Third party wireless adapters are available for CarPlay or Android Auto.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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NetMageSCW wrote: post #739
Telaneo wrote: post #572

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Carplay's a better fix for the map issue, since then I don't have to update them whenever I find an error. With Carplay, errors instead don't happen. The directions being shown in the gauge cluster via carplay is still not a thing on later Kias from what I can tell, so that problem is unfixed no matter what.

LOL that errors don’t happen on Apple or Google Maps. I submit updates to fix things every few months.

The only errors I find are opening hours and similarly trivial things; things that my car's built in nav doesn't even have. A road not being there or it having been moved or whatever has never happened to me while using Google Maps, so while it's not perfect when you're browsing, for actual navigation, it's been perfect for me.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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maxdo wrote: post #564

carPlay is Stockholm syndrome on wheels. people have suffered through its clunky handshake for so long that they've started defending their captor. My friend's $100k Audi makes him spend five minutes accepting terms of service just to enter a GPS destination. On contrary, he can hop into my Tesla and drive off instantly ...location already sent from my phone, key shared from the phone, but wow, no car play involved.…

I hop into my car and CarPlay just automatically puts up the route I already have in my phone and starts working.

A bad implementation doesn’t mean the feature or service is bad. It just means you made a poor choice.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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afandian wrote: post #500
Telaneo wrote: post #479

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's a quite old, third-hand car. But there are plenty of people reporting the same thing. Presumably it's been a problem since day 1. Meaning it was broken on day 1. > But why can't my iPhone let me set permissions for the thing I plug it into? There's the 'trust this device?' popup that should prevent the problem if you don't want the car to do anything with your device. If you want finder control, then from Appl…

Thanks, I might try and reset that 'trust'. I don't recall if it popped up or not originally.

There are also safety adapters / cables that only allow power over USB.

Re: CarPlay Is Additive

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fdgwhite wrote: post #541

Maybe someone already said this but my pet peeve is restrictions on wireless CarPlay. We have a top of the line Kia Telluride that only has wired CarPlay. Then we rented a crappy Kia sedan on vacation and it had wireless. Apparently the developer of Telluride’s fancy built in navigation system prohibits wireless CarPlay

Just get a wireless CarPlay adapter.
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