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Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by Tor3 »

tomodachi94 wrote: post #247
arjie wrote: post #198

Overly aggrieved style of writing. There's some prompts in Gmail to use AI. These are supposedly indictments of the author's writing or intellect? Anyway, the setting is in General and then Cmd-F "smart" and turn everything off.

Unfortunately, this also turns off the Primary/Promotions/Social/Updates categorization.

I've seen those categorizations used, and to me they're totally useless. I instead filter messages in the Filter settings, and apply labels and other things as I wish. This works exactly as I need it, unlike the Google categorizations.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by Tor3 »

WarOnPrivacy wrote: post #243
arjie wrote: post #198

Overly aggrieved style of writing. There's some prompts in Gmail to use AI. These are supposedly indictments of the author's writing or intellect? Anyway, the setting is in General and then Cmd-F "smart" and turn everything off.

> the setting is in General and then Cmd-F "smart" and turn everything off. Once done, users still get the... "Press / for Help me write" or "Press / to write using your GMail and Drive" ...prompt, crapped onto every new email. Find the lever to disable that; I dare you.

I never see any "Press / for.." or anything like that. I rejected all the 'smart' features when gmail one day popped up an announcement about them.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by Tor3 »

dspillett wrote: post #340

It looks like you are writing an email. Would you like some help with that? Seems somewhat familiar from somewhere… I got a new Samsung phone a few months ago (my last phone was showing signs of dying soon, and I'd promised to never touch Xiaomi again). It took a while to convince the two competing sets of GenAI features (Gemini and Bixby, and related features) that if I wanted their help I'd come calling, and until…

That starts to sound like "It's a nice email you have there.. too bad if something should happen to it.."

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by Hobadee »

LandenLove wrote: post #318

Despite using Firefox, I keep chrome installed in case there is a website that requires it. I have recently started receiving Windows 11 notifications from Chrome, advertising their new AI features. This happens one two different devices. I haven't launch chrome on either of them for some time. It is maddening how much they are pushing this useless and inaccurate garbage on us.

A user-agent spoofer will help with most of those "Chrome required" websites.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by Tor3 »

FabHK wrote: post #580

BTW, one more thing where Google thinks I'm stupid: Increasingly, it tries to tie your phone number to your accounts. Fair enough, problems with fake accounts and all that, I don't like it but I understand it. However, the prompt is invariably "Let us verify it's you. Please enter your phone number:" or something along those lines. With that, you don't verify that it's me. You just verify that someone has a phone num…

Yes, that's annoying. I have no interest in connecting my phone number to accounts here and there.

Some firms go the other way.. I use the "Line" app for communication, and initially (many years ago) it was connected to your phone, which caused difficulties if you moved countries (among other things).

They have, however, now removed the connection to a phone number. Good.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

#746

Post by prepend »

vachina wrote: post #454
sshine wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 When I migrated from Gmail to Fastmail years ago, I thought Fastmail felt... less featureful. When I rarely visit my abandoned Gmail, I can't believe I put up with the clunkiness. Lean software stands the test of time. Fastmail hasn't had a noteworthy UI change ever. Minor annoyances: - Clicking an iPhone notification opens the app, but never brings me to the actual email - It is difficult to unfold the full exten…

Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

I like using the webui because my mailbox is too large to pull down locally and it’s easier to handle through the web.

I also have it pulling to local clients that just keep a few messages. Maybe 30% of the time is webui.

Has worked well for me for 30+ years (substituting telneting in and using pine until webuis existed).

“Email in the cloud mainly” is a useful pattern.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by inventor7777 »

pmontra wrote: post #462
vachina wrote: post #454

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

Probably the nothing to install experience. Every Android phone comes with Gmail and every device has a web browser. Do people have to install Gmail on iOS? I'm using Thunderbird with POP3 accounts, download on my laptop then remove from the server, daily backups. My phone has K9 (the old one with the UI I like) and I never remove messages from the phone. When I send mail from the phone I bcc myself so I can see the…

Thank goodness, Gmail does not come on iOS. No other apps are pre installed except Apple's, and I am always very thankful for that when I set up a Samsung tablet as a kiosk and have to delete sponsored apps, AI apps, Spotify, Microsoft apps, Samsung apps, Google apps, kids apps...horrible experience.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by aboardRat4 »

vachina wrote: post #454
sshine wrote: post #348

Earlier quoted context omitted.

+1 When I migrated from Gmail to Fastmail years ago, I thought Fastmail felt... less featureful. When I rarely visit my abandoned Gmail, I can't believe I put up with the clunkiness. Lean software stands the test of time. Fastmail hasn't had a noteworthy UI change ever. Minor annoyances: - Clicking an iPhone notification opens the app, but never brings me to the actual email - It is difficult to unfold the full exten…

Why are people accessing emails from the webUI. Email is SMTP and IMAP, use any number of clients to access your email.

>use any number of clients to access your email.

Your car can have any colour, as long as it is black.

All native email clients are stuck in 2005, lack most basic features, and have bugs not fixed in decades. Also, most providers have poor support for new IMAP features, such as NOTIFY.

Re: Gmail thinks I'm stupid, so I left

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Post by teekert »

GoblinSlayer wrote: post #626
dotancohen wrote: post #497

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> Yes this is the time to buy a domain and own an address for the rest of your life As someone who does use their own domain to receive mail, I am acutely aware of how diligent I must be to never lose that domain. The chances of someone acquiring access to my Gmail account are far lower than me losing the dotancohen.com domain, especially with the cyber attacks against Israeli assets that have been ongoing incessantl…

Change your password from 123456 to correct horse battery staple and you will be safe from cyberattacks. And use noscript.

correct horse battery staple is very good. But for more variation you could ask an LLM
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