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Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by thrownthatway »

basilikum wrote: post #736
anigbrowl wrote: post #451

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Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience, notwithstanding that I agree with theparticular sentiment expressed. > you have the right to express it Out in public sure. In an airplane you're in someone else's private space (ie the airline's) and everyone is not only confined with you in minimal comfort, they have no…

> Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience, notwithstanding that I agree with theparticular sentiment expressed. If you are in any way harassing people by shouting through the plane for example, I agree. But the SSID of a WiFi network isn't that. No one is forced to continually read the list of available hotspots…

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Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by iso1631 »

defrost wrote: post #723
steve1977 wrote: post #718

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That's not what I said though. I just said you're giving away liberties. For example, at home, I'm free to walk around nude and scream. On a plane, I'm not.

On a commercial passenger plane it's frowned upon. On planes in general, many people jump nude for their 100th skydive - the original and best video of this has been scrubbed from youtube, but a quick search shows others. Often screaming is included.

> the original and best video of this has been scrubbed from youtube

More US censorship. Nude skydiving, terrible. Indepth reviews of how to kill things with insane levels of weaponry? Featured video time.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by hinata08 »

sdthjbvuiiijbb wrote: post #740
hinata08 wrote: post #727

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>Do you think terrorists are really going to name their Bluetooth speaker "bomb"? Yes They're threatening to blow up an airliner or actually doing so to hit the news. 911 terrorists had blades, bomb jackets (whether these things are actual doesn't matter, saying you have them is enough), and eventually destroyed the tallest towers in NY and part of Pentagon and erased themselves while committing the crime The point o…

>The point of terrorism is to be visible, dramatic and cause teror. It's not to get a stealth award for hacking the coupon system at the shop and get away with it I agree with you... that's exactly what makes this situation so ludicrous. I'm not sure that an ambiguous, vaguely menacing Bluetooth device name is really going to do the trick. Indeed it's so dumb that even in the extraordinarily unlikely event that it re…

They didn't know how the situation would develop

No one sane would also name a Bluetooth device like that

But yeah, they didn't go for the closest airport either

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by stef25 »

throw368498 wrote: post #691
gpt5 wrote: post #678

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> a plane half full of Hasidic Jews (the ones refusing to board because they're still praying and knocking their head against the wall, and refuse to sit next to women). I don't know why you've decided to explain what is a Hasidic jew in that way (or at all). However I hope you can at least understand in retrospect why describing a religious group as people who all follow some negative behavior is promoting hate towa…

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You're completely wrong. What I wrote was based on my own observations and just to illustrate that those guys seem quite radical and absolutely would heavily object to offensive hotspot or bluetooth device names.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by burnt-resistor »

dghlsakjg wrote: post #402
Aeolun wrote: post #365

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I think this is true to some extent. On the other hand, the Jewish community in the US and the (unconditional) support it leadership gives Israel is a large reason any of this is possible. Saying you weren’t directly involved is only an excuse up to a point.

This kind of generalization is exactly the issue though. There is no singular “Jewish community” in the us. Every single temple or congregation is independent, there is no central authority. You saying that there is unconditional support is just a different degree of yelling at random Jews in the street. Every one of my Jewish family members and friends is horrified by Gaza and the AIPAC/GOP collaboration and speaks…

Thanks for writing this. It's frustrating to see political-based bigotry be condoned and platformed by mainstream political and media figures. Like seeing the criminal Eric Adams, Kathy Hochul, and Chuck Schumer marching with Bezalel Smotrich and Amichay Eliyahu in the "Israel Day" NYC parade... it reminds me of the 1939 Nazi rally @ MSG or the 1925 KKK DC march. Every ethno-religious supremacist organization and national regime is inherently repugnant to human decency and desecrates the trauma and cost paid by and memories of previous generations to free us from tyrannical oppression by terrible ideologies where one group believes they are superior and another group are animals.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by goodcanadian »

UqWBcuFx6NV4r wrote: post #725
goodcanadian wrote: post #669

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That is exactly correct; it's his plane. I think he would face discipline from his airline after the fact, but in the moment, he is in charge.

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What an odd thing to fixate on . . . swap the pronouns around any way you prefer, and my statement remains correct. The captain is in charge of the aircraft and she is to be obeyed if you want to fly on her aircraft. She can refuse to accept any passenger for any reason. If it is a stupid reason, she may have a problem with her employer later, but nobody can overrule her in the moment.

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by iso1631 »

steve1977 wrote: post #728
defrost wrote: post #723

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On a commercial passenger plane it's frowned upon. On planes in general, many people jump nude for their 100th skydive - the original and best video of this has been scrubbed from youtube, but a quick search shows others. Often screaming is included.

On most commercial flights, it's not only frowned upon. But if you want to f$ck around and find out, I'm sure it will make for a fun "How I Ended Up On the No Fly List" story.

> But if you want to f$ck around and find out

It's a tale as old as the USA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mile_high_club

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by barbazoo »

anigbrowl wrote: post #451
godelski wrote: post #379

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> This is trying to sanewash totally insane levels of risk aversion. To add more credence to your point, let's not forget this beautiful line in TFA | During this incident, a Wi-Fi hotspot named "Free Palestine, F Zionists" prompted the pilot to issue a warning to the cabin, telling the passenger responsible that they had "30 seconds" to remove the name or the FBI would meet the aircraft. This is clearly not a threat…

Actually, I don't think it's a good idea to bring your politics into a an enclosed pace like this where people are forced to be a captive audience, notwithstanding that I agree with theparticular sentiment expressed. > you have the right to express it Out in public sure. In an airplane you're in someone else's private space (ie the airline's) and everyone is not only confined with you in minimal comfort, they have no…

Considering the passengers of an airplane a captive audience of a wifi hotspot name is wild. Have these people no ability to not be triggered?

Re: United Airlines 767 returns to Newark after Bluetooth name sparks alert

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Post by barbazoo »

godelski wrote: post #559
steve1977 wrote: post #533

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> they have no way to leave Not only do the people have no way to leave, the owner of the place also has no practical way to make people leave, like they would for example in a restaurant. At least once the plane is in the air. And the captain has to ensure the safety not only of the flying machine but also of the cabin. So I can absolutely understand the move here and the need to forbid everything that could incite…

Anyone willing to start a fight over a tacky WiFi name should be committed. Seriously, what an insane thing to do. It's such an easy thing to not be bothered by. It sits in the background, invisible, and you're... just letting it live rent free in your head? There's so many more annoying things to flying than someone's dumb personal hotspot name. Can we just recognize how crazy of a scenario this is?

Even more you have to actively seek it out to even see it. These people are looking for ways to get triggered.
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