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Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by egorfine »

apatheticonion wrote: post #697
oofbaroomf wrote: post #6

Wow. Hopefully, Ternus will bring what he brought to Apple's hardware to their software. The hardware is leaps and bounds ahead of anything else, but their software gets worse and worse every generation. I'm glad to hear this.

My only hope, however unlikely, is that Apple will recognise that power users, engineers and gamers would really really appreciate running Linux on Macs and they write some drivers for it. There are literally no PC laptops with the quality or hardware offered by even the cheapest MacBook - the software, while fine for general consumers, creators, and some developer workloads, tragically holds back its potential somet…

> Apple will recognise that power users, engineers

They will not. Recognizing the value of power users and engineers looks deeply un-Apple to me.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by dash2 »

hobofan wrote: post #661
71bw wrote: post #654

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>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

This may just be my bubble, but even among my iPhone-owning friends, I haven't seen a single person use Apple Maps in Europe, so I wouldn't be surprised if the efforts to improve the map data have been more focused on the US.

I changed to it for car navigation. It's a less cluttered interface and integrates better with voice control than Google maps. I still use Google to find out what's around me in a city, which is probably where the money is.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by xandrius »

silon42 wrote: post #704
apatheticonion wrote: post #697

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My only hope, however unlikely, is that Apple will recognise that power users, engineers and gamers would really really appreciate running Linux on Macs and they write some drivers for it. There are literally no PC laptops with the quality or hardware offered by even the cheapest MacBook - the software, while fine for general consumers, creators, and some developer workloads, tragically holds back its potential somet…

As a power user, ThinkPad T (maybe P also) series is better for me (and it's not that close). I run Linux on it.

I think it's due not being interested to things like build quality, screen, track pad, etc.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by Rapzid »

bitbeq wrote: post #329

Tim has done an amazing job in the post-Jobs era with his logistics. Brought Apple from $350B to $4T. This move makes perfect sense as Apple needs to start their next chapter with how rapid the world is changing at the moment. I do hope Apple's values don't change going into this new era.

All FAANG except Netflix are trillion to multi-trillion companies now. And Microsoft too.

Tim is fine, but there are clearly other, more powerful forces at play than "Tim Apple amaze".

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by jwr »

danielrhodes wrote: post #79

I think Tim Cook took Steve Job's vision and really took it to the moon. If you think about the last 15 years, Apple has really become the biggest possible version of itself without losing its values. Tech in general has changed quite a bit though. I don't know how Steve Jobs would have reacted to AI, and I don't know where tech itself would be if Jobs were still around. But I do think the next evolution is due and y…

> without losing its values

I would disagree here. Apple actually did lose their values, or they are in the process of doing so.

Ads in App Store results, Ads in Maps (coming soon!), constant upsells and pushes of subscriptions and services, forced upgrade of Numbers/Pages/Keynote with annoying nags that can't be turned off, things are getting worse.

Also, when the word "values" is mentioned, one cannot forget about Tim Cook's donations to Trump and his overall support of Trump and cozying up to him.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by npunt »

pembrook wrote: post #630
pzo wrote: post #212

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This is what’s all bad with us stocks and completely disconnected with market value: Revenue jumped 4x but market capitalization got inflated to 12x.

True, but also Apple is in a far more dominant position today. Alongside Nvidia they essentially monopolize TSMCs entire latest generation chip supply. That’s a moat in hardware that is going to get even stronger over time. Given this hardware moat they can dip their toes gently into the B2B market they’ve never really cared about and pick up another few hundred billion in high margin revenue over the next 10 years n…

You want to be careful about who your customers are, and what they will do to you as an organization. Enterprise customers create enterprise teams create enterprise culture creates enterprise rot. Apple is wise to play to their strategic position as a consumer product company that lives or dies on great product, because when the buyer is the user thats what they demand.

The real strategic risk for Apple is if it overly locks-in users and falls back into complacency. The discipline of having to continually win customers with better product is ultimately the only thing that will cause them to thrive long term.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by 8avo »

smeeth wrote: post #22

I'm quite curious what Tim Cook's legacy will end up being. There is no question many of Apple's business experienced significant, impressive growth during his tenure. Amazing capital efficiency. There is also no question Apple lost product velocity. Few new products were launched, and those that were had mixed success. Tim was, at the end of the day, an elite financial operator. Apple shareholders were lucky to have…

Tim Cook is a businessman who made the company bigger than Jobs could.

But he is not an aestheticist as much as Jobs was. See how Cook has been destroying the faces of iPhones and Macs, which had a huge dent or what is ironically called a "dynamic" island on the top of the screen. Back of iPhones is desparetely ugly.

Also he has not been presenting what makes us exicted. Apple's Siri is forgotten so that he has to rely on Google's Gemini instead of developing their own. While Samsung's Galaxy has been deploying its 7th foldable phone, Apple has done none. Leaks are usual so we can tell what he will show at its annual conference well before he acutually does and it gives us no surprise at all.

In a short term, "what Cook's Apple has innovated?" -- I guess zero. Rather, deteriorated.

As a long-standing user who started computer life with Performa 5220, keep using Macs as main machines and now run M3 MAX Macbook Pro to develop web apps, current Apple is never what I think it should be.

Making the company bigger is great. But what about their products and services? These are also where Cook has been leading to. He seems to forget Job's aphorism, "Stay hungry, stay foolish."

So I hope the new CEO changes the course.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by nottorp »

71bw wrote: post #654
btown wrote: post #72

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Ternus recently gave an interview where he said this about the initial flop of Apple Maps: > “When we started out with maps, it was an ambitious undertaking. It was bumpy,” said Ternus. “But the team had just been over the years just pushing and pushing and pushing. And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. If you have the vision and you're persistent and you keep working at it, you can take something you know that…

>And Apple Maps today is absolutely amazing. Perhaps that is the case in the US, but in Poland, I haven't had a single app guide me into the literal bushes as many times as Apple Maps does. The straw that broke the camel's back was when, I shit you not, the navigation aspect literally expected me to drive through a lake.

Personally I doubt they test the hardware outside an air conditioned and dust less office in California.

Re: John Ternus to become Apple CEO

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Post by eklavya »

the_lucifer wrote: post #150
necovek wrote: post #29

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I tend to disagree to a point: their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! But HW is at least improving (eg. they added anti-reflective screen option), and SW is very much not.

> I tend to disagree to a point: their laptops have great internals but are terrible from a usage perspective — I like to imagine their system board in a Thinkpad X1 Carbon chassis with native Linux! > But HW is at least improving (eg. they added anti-reflective screen option), and SW is very much not. And I would disagree with the idea that I should be running Linux on my primary machine. As a developer, I've faced…

I was sooo in your boat just a while ago. Recently (15 days) switched to an Asus NUC pro (mini pc) with intel 225h. I kid you not, I am running Almalinux 10, KDE on it, not even the latest/greatest. I have HDR, VRR, 120Hz, media acceleration, with dual monitors with different settings you name it. Everything works!!
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