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F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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At this point Israelis (and the bulk of Israel-backing jews around the world) only have themselves to blame for the resurgence of neo-nazi conspiracy theories. >antisemitic conspiracy theory that claims that Jews secretly control the U.S. government. Anyway, this just seems to be fact, and not a conspiracy theory? Besides for the "secretly" part.

blaming jews for antisemitism – lovely stuff! switch the jews to any other nation and hate towards them and see how bigoted that sounds. your hate is visible.

I think at this point it's entirely fair to hate the state of Israel and anyone who supports it existence. Not because of blood libels, but over a century of Zionist aggression.

There's no need for just about anyone to live in Israel, it's a choice. It's okay to hate people for the choices they make.

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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I noticed a wave of that right as trump declared war (declared conflict, whatever), people going "I voted for no new wars," but I noticed on /r/conservative that the takes quickly gave way to sudden concern about Iran's nuclear capability as the propaganda mills got their fodder in order.

Who moderates /r/conservative? Whenever I drop into old subreddits these days the whole place feels very astro-turfed. High chance that it's modded by zionists, they have a lot of money and a lot of different organisations that hire full time people to "fight disinformation".

The Myth of the All-Powerful Israel Lobby

https://www.thefp.com/p/coleman-hughes-the-myth-of-the-all-p...

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Given that 8 hours after your comment mainstream news sites are still reporting on ongoing SAR ops for the 2nd F-15 crewmember, it's likely those stories were false or confounded recovery of an A-10 pilot (also downed, separate incident) today.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2026/apr/04/middle-ea...> (Live updates at The Guardian, as of 15 minutes prior to my own comment.)

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There are 4 players in this war and they all have very different goals and "victory" conditions. 1. Israel wants to ruin Iran permanently, to turn it into Somalia 2.0, meaning a quasi-state with no organized, central government. Were they to succeed in this it would be a humantarian disaster the likes of which we haven't seen since probably WW2. Tens of millions of refugees that will probably collapse surrounding cou…

> Iran no longer trusts the US as a good faith actor and negotiator Iran ("the regime") was never a good faith actor or negotiator. Their position was something like "we won't develop nuclear weapons as long as we have free reign to torture our own citizens and fund violent groups that destabilize regional governments". And still marched on enriching uranium anyway. There's nothing to trust on either side. This war w…

Trying hard to maintain the facade that blowing Iran is for the good if their people..

Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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This is the dumbest, most pointless military conflict in American history. There is nothing plausible to win, but we can conceivably lose everything. A pyric victory is among the most favorable outcomes. We are led by corrupt imbeciles. I can only hope the outcome includes regime change for the U.S.

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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[dupe] Earlier: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47626347 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47627182

dang moved the comment from those threads to here, so the discussion is empty. I'm not sure if the press coverage has more info. (My guess is that they are quite similar.)

Yep, fair, this one probably just on front page at present. At the time of commenting, one of those two links was flagged, and this one was also freshly flagged, so the Earlier one was still active and available is all. Things change.

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So how is this not flagged, whereas this other post lasted literally minutes before being flagged? https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47612053 75000+ palestinians killed, arguably one of the defining crimes of our age are not worth HN discussion (“politics”) but one F15E shot down in a war of choice is (apparently, “tech”)?

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Re: F-15E jet shot down over Iran

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Why didn't Iran use its capability to take down enemy jets for an entire month?

Downvoters, care to explain? Seriously, it's been sitting on this for entire month and now, all of a sudden, rolled out antiaircraft defense? What's going on?

It's not entirely impossible that someone smuggled in some Chinese or Russian kit in the last month. It would certainly be an interesting development. I wouldn't be too surprised if there are some sympathetic people in the Pakistani military prone to misplacing things.
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