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Epoch confirms GPT5.4 Pro solved a frontier math open problem

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Re: Epoch confirms GPT5.4 Pro solved a frontier math open problem

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> I would like to see a few more AI inventions to know for sure, but wow, it really is a new and exciting world. We already have a few years of experience with this. > I really hope we use this intelligence resource to make the world better. We already have a few years of experience with this.

What has AI discovered more than a year ago?

We, people, have discovered.

Re: Epoch confirms GPT5.4 Pro solved a frontier math open problem

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It's funny because the fundamental thing I'm speaking out against is the arrogance of human exceptionalism. This whole debate about what it means to be intelligent or human just seems like we're making the same mistakes we've made over and over. Earth as the center of the universe, sun as the center of the universe, man as the only animal with consciousness and intellect, the anthropomorphic nature of the majority of…

The need for human exceptionalism doesn't come from the psyche or anything like that, it's just basic survival skills. Humans believe themselves to be special because that's the only belief that isn't self-destructive. You can choose to believe humans are not exceptional, in the same way I can choose to cut off all my fingers and eat them. Why would I do that? If what you say about LLMs is true, that's bad for me. An…

Sure, I agree it's a valuable survival skill. Being fully consumed by the idea that you are the only thing that matters and is of value, or at least you are at the top of the pyramid of what matters and is of value, is how you survive mortal conflict and competition with others be they animals, humans, future AIs, whatever.

That said, an objective assessment of reality reveals that you are not in fact the only thing that matters, or the thing that matters the most, in this universe. There's no way to argue your life is more valuable than the lives of the other humans you're in competition with that isn't ex post facto rationalization.

I agree that LLMs/AI pose many threats to us. I don't think the intrinsic value of living objectively went down, although the perception of it may be in the process of doing so. I think it's objectively always been what it is and we've held useful (to us) delusions about it, which AI now threatens to shatter some part of these.

I've thought a few times lately about beneficial delusion - things like blind, baseless, even counterfactual confidence in yourself are genuinely helpful in so many aspects of life from interpersonal relationships, to sales, to success in business and various pursuits.

You may not actually be the smartest and most capable person but by genuinely believing that you are you will trend towards positive outcomes.

Anyway, I think this belief in our central role in the universe/exceptionalism is another example of this, or as you put it just another useful survival skill.

That said, I do like to stay grounded as much as I can in as objective an assessment of reality as I can muster, otherwise I start to feel unmoored and like I'm going insane.

Re: Epoch confirms GPT5.4 Pro solved a frontier math open problem

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Also, we can do thought experiments, simulations in our heads, that often are as good as doing them for real - it has limitations and isn't perfect though. But it does work often. Einstein used to purposely dose off in a weird position so that something hit his leg or something like that to slightly nudge him half awake so he could remember his half-dreaming state - which is where he discovered some things

Any source on Einstein's behavior? Id love to read more.

I don't remember where I read it, pretty sure it was in a book - my dad taught me science stuff starting young (like late 80s, early 90s) , I remember it and somehow I got really into altered states, psychedelics, etc so that really just stuck in my mind somehow (even though I think I read about that, before ever trying any psychedelics)

I have a very vivid dream life myself, and I have had 'out of body' experiences starting at age 6, so maybe I read it sometime after having some of those weird experiences and that's possibly why I remember reading it.

Re: Epoch confirms GPT5.4 Pro solved a frontier math open problem

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I guess when it can't be tripped up by simple things like multiplying numbers, counting to 100 sequentially or counting letters in a string without writing a python program, then I might believe it. Also no matter how many math problems it solves it still gets lost in a codebase

Arguments like "but AI cannot reliably multiply numbers" fundamentally misunderstand how AI works. AI cannot do basic math not because AI is stupid, but because basic math is an inherently difficult task for otherwise smart AI. Lots of human adults can do complex abstract thinking but when you ask them to count it's "one... two... three... five... wait I got lost".

> Lots of human adults can do complex abstract thinking but when you ask them to count it's "one... two... three... five... wait I got lost".

LOL, an AI wrote this

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