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I'm the trendsetter. I've never stopped using wired headphones and, after being made fun of for years despite much better audio quality, cost, simplicity and reliability, the rich finally decided to imitate me. Never let go of your convictions!

Late to this post but I have to ask. People made fun of you? Really? I have never owned bluetooth headphones but I've never heard a single comment about that. What kind of enviroment are you in? Leave!

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

#742
Kind of unrelated to this article, but maybe someone can help me: I have a room wherein I want no computer device, but I do want digital music. Is there a digital equivalent of a record player, or large ipod, that is basically just an amp/receiver plus music selection interface? I'd rather not use my phone nor a laptop for this purpose, as the room is meant to be a retreat from such things.

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

#743
post #104

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> With Apple's proclivity for proprietary standards, I'm amazed they (or others) haven't rolled their own wireless audio standard by now. Can you imagine Europe's reaction? They'd fine Apple to the moon -- no innovation allowed unless it interoperates with other products that don't exist yet.

> Can you imagine Europe's reaction? And they'd be right to do so. The correct approach to creating a new standard is plan interoperability from the start. If a vendor plans lock in by introducing a new standard, they should get shut down immediately and told to do better.

Why should Apple go to this R&D effort to benefit a commodified market of headphone products? Europe has no answer to this question. The result, just as with pharma research, is both lower profits and less innovation.

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

#744
post #338

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Yes that's my point with the "if"! And in general I largely agree with you. The parent comment basically argued vinyl is superior because when artists used vinyl the resulting music was creatively better (because of whatever process). Sure, but then you can't selectively ignore the great music that has been made with other recording technologies. I can point to a lot of good music recorded on tape or digital. Unless…

> There is no magic sauce killer feature unique to vinyl. Old-school DJing! Imagine carefully positioning the laser on a CD...

Haha I'm imagining DJing with CDs and the thought is hilarious! Could really up the skill ceiling and bring DJing to the next level

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

#745

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Analog formats are clearly inferior to digital ones, but analog speakers are superior to digital ones?

Digital speakers don’t exist. No matter how the signal gets there, the end result is wiggling air in an analog process.

Clearly I'm talking about the digital signals sent wirelessly here

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

#746

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It’s poorly written but painfully familiar. Even if it’s two devices that have never known any connection but the single one between them… Bluetooth aomeyimes just inexplicably fails, requiring forgetting the previous connection, and reconnecting.”

"Forget the network" implies something to do with wifi though.

It does, but again, it’s poorly written.

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

#747
post #674

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Coincidentally my statement comes from the position of someone who has been building and designing analog synths for years and teaching exactly that on the university level. The analog part of a synth can be meaningful and sometimes it is. But very often it is really not or can be adequately (or more then adequately) emulated digitally. As a noise musician I am also aware that a lot of the interesting behavior of som…

> But quite frankly vanilla conditions are exactly what 99.9% of the musicians will use the gear with Any filter resonance or guitar distortion/overdrive is not a "vanilla condition", so you're absolutely wrong. In fact, the extreme conditions is precisely the reason why normies even listen to music. Nobody would care for electric guitar if it wasn't overdriven.

I also happen to play electrical guitar distorted half my life. Distortion isn't as complicated to emulate as you make it out to be. In fact the hardest part about doing digital distortion is having the analog frontend and the ADC be good enough, since you will add hefty (digital) gains to the signals.

Hoe do I know? I am working on a digital distortion pedal right now. If done right software emulation of guitar amplification chains is pretty good nowadays. Many touring musicians use Neural DSP Quad Cortex and Co nowadays.

I happen to also like the simplicity and robustness of just a stupid analog amp, but those aren't as special as the gearsnobs make them out to be.

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

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post #672

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I happen to both teach electronics on a university level and DSP program, so I will add a [citation needed] to your statement. Yes, there are analog circuits whose edge case percularities have not yet been adequately represented in digital circuits. But much of that is nor whar the layperson would even use and beyond any limits of perception.

All analogue oscillators and filters are based on nonlinear feedback loops. Those nonlinearities can't really be modeled mathematically. We very carefully tune these things to a narrow range of stable parameters so that they sound more "digital", but really it's the unstable parameter ranges that make music interesting.

Yes of course they can be modeled mathematically. Why couldn't they be? The analog circuits I build I simulate ahead of time using LTSpice. You can even output wav files from LTSpice and listen to them. Simulation takes ages since LTSpice isn't all that well optimized for modern Computers, but it works pretty well and matches what I see in analog circuits that I have produced. Sure there are problems where the Spice model for specific parts is too simple, but very often it turns out that these are not important for the characteristic sound of the circuit.

To me a statement as the one you made just showcases how little people know about the matter. Many just repeat talking points they have heard elsewhere.

Don't get me wrong. It is hard to e.g. accurately model a Wasp Voltage Controlled Lowpass Filter so it sounds as good as the real thing. But it is not even remotely impossible. There are much, much harder problems in electrical engineering that have been solved decades ago.

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

#749
post #735

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Airpods didn't invent noise cancelling, Bose has been selling them since 2000. Price/quality has been always on the side of the wired devices. Unless you need wireless, get something wired. Airpod, and similar, are almost always less than 1 meter away from the phone.

> Airpods didn't invent noise cancelling, Bose has been selling them since 2000 I didn't say they did but the Airpods are essentially best in class for this > Unless you need wireless, get something wired Them being wireless is a huge part of the "convenience" side of the equation

>I didn't say they did but the Airpods are essentially best in class for this

Best in class are the Bose QuietComfort Ultra, (wireless is optional for the overears, as is should be in such a product). Sennheiser Momentum 4 (wire also optional for the overears) are also a very good alternative, maybe not as blocking as the Airpods, but the sound is probably better, more "natural", but that is a personal taste after all. Comparing only the ear buds, Airpods are the less forgiving with the ear fit of the three models, they clearly prioritized aestetics before ergonomics.

The point is that there were excellent NC options before the Airpods, and almost nobody gave a fuck about the technology. Suddenly Apple "invented" the tech for the masses, and now nobody can't live without it, to the point that you are a cavemen if you are not using them. They never were the best, they are just another ones. Kudos to Apple for good marketing and brand positioning.

Incidentally, I can't use regular ear buds for long without them moving around and losing a lot of sound quality. I have in-ear monitors custom made, and they still move and pop out sometimes. I tested the Airpods my sister has (the ones without silicone tip), and they simply don't do the work because they don't seal enough unless you push them with your fingers.

Re: Wired headphone sales are exploding

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post #651
post #480

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> (TBF, BT ones also drop packets in RF-noisy environments, but they seem to be more resistant to it) I've experienced the opposite. The microwave will knock out my bluetooth completely, but the wired headphones are solid but in a decade of using both wired and wireless headphones I've never heard anything weird or staticy through the wired ones. My wired headphones were the Shure SE215, and now after a decade of usi…

Your microwave is leaky, and/or not grounded, but since you don't experience static, I assume you have grounding at your house. Without grounding static and mains hum is quite noticeable. Try touching the body of your pc and listen how silence changes in wired headphones.

> but since you don't experience static, I assume you have grounding at your house.

It's illegal not to,

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