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Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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> The new AirTag is designed with the environment in mind, with 85 percent recycled plastic in the enclosure, 100 percent recycled rare earth elements in all magnets, and 100 percent recycled gold plating in all Apple-designed printed circuit boards. The paper packaging is 100 percent fiber-based and can be easily recycled. I'm no material scientist, but this seems pretty impressive to me that Apple's economy of scal…

but then the fob also costs $30 :/

Just buy a generic Find My tracker on Amazon for about $5.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

I developed a device that turns an Airtag on and off at specific intervals (roughly 80% off 20% on). While the AirTag is off, it can’t be detected, and when it turns on again, you can locate it and with it your stolen item: https://undetectag.com I'm about to order the new version to check whether it works on it too

This is brilliant just like Elevation Lab's 10 year battery for the AirTag. Do you think they'll work together?

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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post #318

Unfortunately the anti-stalking features have made Airtag mostly useless for theft prevention. You have less than an hour to retrieve your item before the tag alerts the thief they are being tracked. I've seen it trigger as quickly as 30 minutes.

How would airtags work as theft prevention? Airtags only enter the equation once something has already been stolen.

Something like this product could potentially be a small theft deterrant.

You can tell there's an AirTag, and there's no easy way to remove it.

https://www.elevationlab.com/collections/airtag/products/tag...

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Do these tags need to be configured on both networks to support both protocols? If I own an Android device and configure it there, will Apple devices still find the tag? How does that work?

The Chipolos that I have purchased appear on my phone when first presented, then do not offer to pair to other users' Find Hubs unless I deregister. I imagine that Airtag functionality is disabled when Find Hub configures these tags. I have heard in the commentary here that Chipolo is now making dual-network devices, but only one can be active at a time. Apple has a larger and more sensitive network, so uses requirin…

There are YouTube videos for disabling the speaker.

Some ideas for location: behind the glovebox or under the spare tire.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

#745

I wish they made airtags in different form factors. I've gotten into photography lately. I'd love to slip an airtag into more places - ideally within the housing of my camera bodies themselves. But, there's not really any room to put an airtag on or in a camera given the current airtag form factor. You can get camera cages with secret compartments for airtags. And lens caps which take an airtag. But they take up a lo…

Not sure if you've found this: https://www.elevationlab.com/collections/airtag/products/tag...

It still takes some space but quite clever

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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So they made it impossible to remove speaker, destroying its usability as a theft tracking device. One could add an airtag with a removed speaker on a bike/scooter/car and then localize it in case of theft. With the new airtag any thief will be quickly notified they are tracked.

We have an airtag in our cargo bike, connected to our ipad (neither my wife nor I have an Iphone). It never actually makes a sound and we can reliably track on the ipad. what gives? I never thought about this.

Au contraire, my airtag in my car sometimes makes sounds even when it's just me driving in the car.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Could you describe the difference between the artificial flavour vanilin made in a lab, and the natural flavour vanilin extracted from a vanilla bean?

OK for vanilla, however most of the fruit artificial flavors are compound that have nothing to do with the elements from the natural fruit but at some point, someone in the food industry decided it tasted "similar" to the natural fruit. For some of them, like cherry or coconuts, the artificial flavor tastes nothing like the natural flavor.

To my knowledge benzaldehyde is the most common cherry flavor, and I agree it doesn't taste much like cherries. It's also a naturally occurring compound we produce from cassia oil, and it's naturally contained in almonds, apricots, apples and cherries.

As for coconut there's Lactones, which - you guessed it - occur naturally.

> OK for vanilla, however most of the fruit artificial flavors are compound that have nothing to do with the elements from the natural fruit but at some point, someone in the food industry decided it tasted "similar" to the natural fruit.

Care to provide a source?

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

#748

> The new AirTag is designed with the environment in mind, with 85 percent recycled plastic in the enclosure, 100 percent recycled rare earth elements in all magnets, and 100 percent recycled gold plating in all Apple-designed printed circuit boards. The paper packaging is 100 percent fiber-based and can be easily recycled. I'm no material scientist, but this seems pretty impressive to me that Apple's economy of scal…

Recycled metals have always been cost effective. Recycled plastic is much more expensive than virgin plastic, but it's a very small materials cost to start with, likely totaling only a few cents.

Recycled plastic usually isn't the same quality though.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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What level of materials recycling would be required for you to not consider it green washing? It’s a genuine question, since I don’t like Apple and agree that we buy tons of stuff we don’t really need. That said, our bicycles can’t be insured anymore, but having AirTags at least alleviates some of the angst over leaving them in public places.

Recycled plastics actually produce microplastics more than virgin plastics do. Some studies on recycled polyester garments found that they dump an additional 50% more or so into the environment than non-recycled polyester fabrics. And those non-recycled fabrics already release enormous quantities over their lifespan into the water supply and open air (via your dryer exhaust) already. Dumb example for the sake of disc…

Plutonium is probably safer than some of the materials we do use in clothes.

Re: Apple introduces new AirTag with longer range and improved findability

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Ironically, it's worse. I just wrote another comment about this. Recycled plastics carry more toxic load and shed more (and more fragmented) microplastics into the environment. Recycled plastics only win out on carbon emissions. Moral of the story: plastic is just not good. Avoid buying things made out of ANY kind plastic if you are going to regularly wash and mechanically agitate them. You won't eliminate 100% of wa…

That's good to know. My understanding though is that they don't use 100% recycled plastic to prevent that? I thought the ~20% non recycled plastic was kinda "stabilizing" the whole thing but maybe that's not true

Nope that's not true. All recycled plastic is bad.
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