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Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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It’s worth acknowledging the real challenges raised in this thread: desktop Linux still has rough edges for some use cases, hardware support isn’t always perfect, and niche professional software may lack native support or require workarounds. But these obstacles are not intrinsic technical limitations so much as ecosystem and investment gaps, areas where community projects, standards efforts, and wider adoption could…

> the question isn’t simply “Is Linux perfect?” but rather: Do we want our fundamental computing environment to be ultimately under our control, or controlled by private interests with their own incentives?

The answer is: it doesn't matter. Linux desktop doesn't exist because of privacy nerds, free software evangelists, anti-capitalists, or European protectionists, and it won't change because of them either. Sit here on the internet and pontificate all you want. Pontificating doesn't fix bugs or write code. It is what it is. If there was money in it, people'd be going after it. If there was some "higher calling" to galvanize people into action, it would've galvanized them already. This is the best it's going to get.

The much, much bigger issue is control of applications, and the browsers (and their owners) won that long ago. Doesn't matter what OS you use, you need a browser to do anything useful on the internet. And if that ever gets "solved", it'll just pass on to the next shit-show of humans letting things get as bad as they can stand. Technology is made by humans, so it follows human values.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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I am pretty sure that my previous attempts at a Linux desktop have failed because I would tweak my setup by installing packages and updates until I broke it and needed to reinstall. But I want my machine to be indestructible and "just work". Waiting day(s) to diagnose and fix an issue just isn't worth it. I have been contemplating a switch to Linux again. This time, I will embrace a LTS distribution and virtualizatio…

Not a popular opinion, but RedHat (now IBM) funds an enormous amount of critical open source. They pay people to contribute to hundreds of upstream projects. And RHEL is 100% focused on stability. Sounds like a good match for your priorities / goals.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

#744

It’s worth acknowledging the real challenges raised in this thread: desktop Linux still has rough edges for some use cases, hardware support isn’t always perfect, and niche professional software may lack native support or require workarounds. But these obstacles are not intrinsic technical limitations so much as ecosystem and investment gaps, areas where community projects, standards efforts, and wider adoption could…

I think you are thinking about it way too hard. Windows 11 is a dog. Constant hardware problems, slow, and frustrating UX. Is any desktop linux perfect? No, but its better than w11 right now.

Doesn't matter if Windows sucks or not. People will still use it, either because they have to, or because it's the path of least resistance. Same reason even though your Government sucks, you still pay your taxes and follow the law.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not that there aren't trust issues with bigger projects but don't folks worry that the further down the "branch of a flavour of of a branch of a flavour" chain they go the higher and higher the risk of someone sneaking nefarious code through becomes? I guess there's a natural barrier in that the lesser known code bases become less of a target. Sometimes I just find it wild with how much we talk about containers and s…

Universal blue images are built via public GitHub Actions runners. If you don’t trust them, fork it and use your own image.

How would that solve the problem of running the unaudited changeset between Fedora and Blue Fin and then between that and Universal Blue?

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

#746
As soon as the wizards at wine figure out how to get the ricochet kernel level tpm anti cheat stuff for Call Or Duty 7 and similar games working I am nuking windows. But alas playing COD zombies is how I unwind and it’s a no go on Linux. So I have a windows install

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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Every now and then a new article "Why you should go Linux". I get it, I like Linux too but every case is different. I want to use Linux but I have to use Digital Audio Workstation. So in my case, I shouldn't dump Windows (and thousand of $$ I've spent on audio software). I know people desperately want to believe that Linux is "there", but it really isn't. And will probably never be. It’s still too confusing for the a…

> It’s still too confusing for the average user (many distros, many desktop environments, Wayland vs X, systemd vs init, snap vs flatpak). Users don't need to know about any of that, except for picking a distro and just using whatever is there. Regarding DAW - I get sticking with Windows if you have thousands invested in it. Even so, there's quite a bit of professional software out there with native support (like Bit…

> Users don't need to know about any of that

Until they run into one of the many problems that force them to know it. Hell, just googling for "How do I do X in Ubuntu" leads to 20 different random forum threads (because Ubuntu doesn't have any official answer or support for you), with solutions that don't work, because it's random people posting random comments of "what worked for them" over 15 years.

I'm an expert and I can't even figure it out half the time. Regular users are screwed.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

#748

It’s worth acknowledging the real challenges raised in this thread: desktop Linux still has rough edges for some use cases, hardware support isn’t always perfect, and niche professional software may lack native support or require workarounds. But these obstacles are not intrinsic technical limitations so much as ecosystem and investment gaps, areas where community projects, standards efforts, and wider adoption could…

as a long-time windows user who has fairly recently switched to linux - windows has a few rough edges too (and feels like it's getting increasingly rougher). Having recently switched I don't feel like things have changed much for me in terms of jankiness/broken-ness (and maybe linux is slightly better, for the subset of tools and programs I am using?).

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s still too confusing for the average user (many distros, many desktop environments, Wayland vs X, systemd vs init, snap vs flatpak). Users don't need to know about any of that, except for picking a distro and just using whatever is there. Regarding DAW - I get sticking with Windows if you have thousands invested in it. Even so, there's quite a bit of professional software out there with native support (like Bit…

I'm fairly proficient when it comes to Windows, but the diversity in install methods for Fedora threw me for a loop, too. It seemed easier at first -- get all your software from trusted sources in the default package manager, just like an app store! But then there's the question of RPM vs. Snap vs. Flatpak vs. downloading an installer from their website, some versions being further behind than others, the method you…

It's the evergreen of ios vs android. Want to have something that "just works" you'll get exactly that. You want freedom of choice, here you go with all the freedom you can get.

If you want someone that tailors the experience, you'll have to pay with money and freedom.

Re: I dumped Windows 11 for Linux, and you should too

#750

Did this 2 years ago. I run Fedora, if its what Linus himself runs then why should i choose anything else?

Linus runs this specifically because it supports kernel development decently well. If you aren’t developing the kernel, his reasons for running Fedora have little to no impact on you.

while i provisionally agree with you, the rest of the distro is very leading edge and very stable and solid.

those are also solid good reasons, and likely play a role in his choices as well.

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