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Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by esalman »

randerson wrote: post #497

I'd pay good money for a dumb 4K OLED TV that does nothing but show whatever is coming in through the HDMI port. I use a Playstation 5 for everything including Netflix, Apple TV and so on. But every time I turn on the PS5, my TV detects the Playstation and automatically changes the TV's Sound and Video modes to "Gaming", which makes dialog difficult to hear on TV. So I change the setting manually using its horrible r…

I bought a not too expensive TCL qm6k with game master mode. Whenever it detects Xbox series S input, it turns on the mode by default. On menu it stays at 1440p but when I start a game, it switches to 4k 120hz- and the input lag becomes horrible!

Turns out it does not even care if I set lower resolution in Xbox display settings. So I had to just disable game master mode. And I don't miss anything.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by School-Cotton »

spoiler wrote: post #319
School-Cotton wrote: post #298

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Anyone who cares about audio will have dedicated speakers, so it barely even makes sense to make TV speakers good.

I'm a bit on the fence about this. If someone buys a TV (y'know, a device that's supposed to reproduce sound and moving pictures), it should at least be decent at both. But if people want a high-end 5.1/7.1/whatever.1 sound then by all means they should be able to upgrade. My mum? She doesn't want or need that, nor does she realistically have the space to have a high-end home-cinema entertainment setup (much less a d…

Sure, it would be nice if TVs could have good sound out of the box if that meant no other tradeoffs. But if it means making the TV thicker (and, as other comments have pointed out, it probably would) then I'd be against it, since I never use the built-in TV speaker and frankly don't think anyone should.

Honestly I think high-end TVs should just not include speakers at all, similar to how high-end speakers don't contain built-in amplifiers. Then you could spend the money saved on whatever speakers you want.

> She shouldn't need to constantly adjust sound volume or settings, or spend another thousand on equipment and refurbishment to access to decent sound.

How about €100 on a soundbar?

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by squarefoot »

That crap should be turned off regardless of the material being watched. It's just rubbish put there to write in the advertising crazy, and completely bogus, contrast and resolution numbers, or to fake audio features that have no other reason to exist than putting one more bullet point when advertising that model. I wish signage displays were a bit cheaper because as of today they're the best possible less enshittified screens to watch stuff on.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by Nursie »

anon7000 wrote: post #625
Nursie wrote: post #145

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Game of Thrones S8E3. Could barely tell what was going on, everything was so dark, and black crush killed it completely, making it look blocky and janky. I watched it again a few years later, on max brightness, sitting in the dark, and I got more of what was going on, but it still looked terrible. One day I'll watch the 'UHD' 4k HDR version and maybe I'll be able to see what it was supposed to look like.

Problem is, you’ll have to find a high bitrate version. Whatever they streamed on HBO the day of release was really shitty bitrate which crushes detail in detail-starved scenes like these

I tried a load of different versions including blu-ray rips IIRC, and it was all just as bad.

When I last rewatched it (early pandemic), as far as I could tell at the time there was no HDR version available, which I assume would fix it by being able to represent more variation in the darker colours.

I might hunt one down at some point as it does exist now. Though it still wouldn’t make season 8 ‘good’ !!

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Post by throw-12-16 »

badc0ffee wrote: post #713
throw-12-16 wrote: post #649

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Thats definitely an American way of speaking.

Americans don't call a vacuum cleaner a Hoover, do they? The British definitely do.

I don't think so, but I typically hear them use brands like Kleenex, Band-aid, etc instead of tissue, bandage.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by throw-12-16 »

epistasis wrote: post #684
throw-12-16 wrote: post #233

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Just buy a decent external surround sound system, has nothing to do with the TV and will last a long long time.

I really don't want to install multiple new devices. I don't care about the cost, the inconvenience and hassle is a PITA. Plus then you had to fiddle with multiple volume controls instead of one to make it work for your space. No thank you. We should make the default work well, and if people want a sound optimized experience that requires 6x the pieces of equipment let those who want to do the extra work do what they…

Ok sure.

However getting a better sound system is a current solution to the problem that doesn't require some broad systemic change that may or may not ever happen.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by throw-12-16 »

Avamander wrote: post #678
Yizahi wrote: post #324

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I'm listening to a majority of video content in my stereo headphones on PC. They are good and quality of every source is good. Everything sounds fine except for some movie and some TV shows specifically. And those are atrocious in clarity. Regarding internal speakers, I have listened to several cheap to medium TVs on internal speakers, and yes on some models the sound was bad. But it doesn't matter, because the most…

Do you really expect a downmix of eight channels into two to sound super clear? New content especially comes with more channels, more channels that will get muddled into your two for output. Do you spend the effort of specifically selecting stereo tracks (or adjusting how it gets downmixed)?

Most of these guys would rather debate the perceived morality of the current state of audio mixes over just buying some better speakers.

It's pretty annoying.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by KronisLV »

omnicognate wrote: post #258

It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It seems they want to make these settings usable without specialist knowledge, but the end result of their opaque naming and vague descriptions is that anybody who actually cares about what they see and thinks they might benefit from some of the features has to either systematically try every p…

The whole comment 100% matches my experience with any and every BIOS setup out there.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by epistasis »

throw-12-16 wrote: post #746
epistasis wrote: post #684

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really don't want to install multiple new devices. I don't care about the cost, the inconvenience and hassle is a PITA. Plus then you had to fiddle with multiple volume controls instead of one to make it work for your space. No thank you. We should make the default work well, and if people want a sound optimized experience that requires 6x the pieces of equipment let those who want to do the extra work do what they…

Ok sure. However getting a better sound system is a current solution to the problem that doesn't require some broad systemic change that may or may not ever happen.

A far better solution that I take: not consume the media at all. Not only is there an abundance of media these days, but there are many many other better ways to spend time, such as writing comments on Hacker News that very few people will ever see.

I have spent about half an hour investigating sound bars as a result of these discussions, and that's a loss of life that I can never get back, and I regret spending that much time on the problem.

Re: Stranger Things creator says turn off “garbage” settings

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Post by fuzzy_lumpkins »

drob518 wrote: post #574
omnicognate wrote: post #258

It would help if TV manufacturers would clearly document what these features do, and use consistent names that reflect that. It seems they want to make these settings usable without specialist knowledge, but the end result of their opaque naming and vague descriptions is that anybody who actually cares about what they see and thinks they might benefit from some of the features has to either systematically try every p…

Agreed. And I’m not going to flip my TV’s mode every time I watch a new show. I need something that does a good job on average, where I can set it and forget it.

exactly. the only adjustment I need to be making is hdmi input and volume.
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