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Re: Steam Machine

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Post by babuskov »

clayhacks wrote: post #642
serf wrote: post #634

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm so happy to read this it rings hollow from a company whose entire bedrock for existence is DRM procedures. does Steam still disallow accounts from playing more than one independently owned game at a time without special procedures?

You can now have steam families and have two members play different games from the same library. Assuming you were using two machines you could just have a second account as a family member and play both. Or do you have a crazy beefy computer and are trying to run two different games on one machine?

Not really. It still has a library level lock. What Steam Families has enabled is to play games from each other's libraries at the same time. For example, if my account has a game A, and your has a game B, I can play the game B while you play the game A. This used to be disabled before.

You still cannot play a game C from my library while I play the game A from my own library.

The only way to be able to play any game you want would be to create a separate account for each game.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by qiine »

Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe wrote: post #621

> Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? I'm so happy to read this

And just like that, valve will keep winning spectacularly.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by babuskov »

serf wrote: post #634
Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe wrote: post #621

> Install your own apps, or even another operating system. Who are we to tell you how to use your computer? I'm so happy to read this

>I'm so happy to read this it rings hollow from a company whose entire bedrock for existence is DRM procedures. does Steam still disallow accounts from playing more than one independently owned game at a time without special procedures?

> does Steam still disallow accounts from playing more than one independently owned game at a time without special procedures?

Yes. I just tried launching one game on Steam Deck and another one on my desktop and it showed a message:

> Error - Steam: You are logged in on another computer already playing Railbound. Launching Clutchtime™: Basketball Deckbuilder here will disconnect the other session from Steam.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by babuskov »

Prickle wrote: post #639
serf wrote: post #634

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I'm so happy to read this it rings hollow from a company whose entire bedrock for existence is DRM procedures. does Steam still disallow accounts from playing more than one independently owned game at a time without special procedures?

No. That restriction has been gone for a few years now. I can run rimworld and quasimorph via steam at the same time, as an example.

Only if you do it on the same computer. The restriction is still there if you try to, for example, run one game on your PC and another on Steam Deck.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by i-chuks »

i-chuks wrote: post #731

Two very important questions are: How long before the steam machine gets obsolete? Would it be hardware upgradeable?

So, I watched an IGN video on youTube and the answer is no. You can only upgrade the SSD the rest of the components are soldered. The steam machine is intended to be kept simple and for the living room, so while you can tinker with software, DIY hardware tinkering is very limited.

https://youtu.be/xb3a3EKwhGQ?si=qeqBJ5Giwo7IqzxV

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by BossingAround »

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #669
hoppp wrote: post #647

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup. Sounds like its just a PC and not a locked down platform. Its easy for them and convenient for everyone.

Except that (I believe) "just a PC" was a bit offputting for a lot of people - when you buy a PC you can't just turn it on and play video games, especially not after Microsoft's shenanigans. I'm honestly surprised nobody else tried a "boot to game library" PC, but then, you also need the name and reputation for it. Microsoft could've done it, but they chose to make a console. Which is mostly a PC, but you need xbox g…

I mean, even Valve has tried it in the past, and it was a failure. Look up Steam Machines from 2010s. I consider the success of Steam Deck (thanks to flawless execution this time) as almost a minor miracle.

Re: Steam Machine

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Post by omega3 »

The non upgrade-ability of the components is a deal breaker for me considering the estimated cost (800eur?). I'm not sure who the target market for this is, the pc games already have pcs they can upgrade.

What would make the console players consider paying effectively twice (compared to the current ps5 prices) to play the same games? I think such a device would have to be priced competitively with ps5 for me to even consider having a separate gaming device/replace the console in the living room.

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