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Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Apple imposes "Artificial Incompetence" on their users. It treats them like children, gives them no agency, and limits their freedom, all while praising them for their taste and superior sense of... something. This current iteration of Apple lacks the geniuses and visionaries that might have possibly justified their behavior at some point in the past, so you have a soulless corporate churn reinforcing the biggest wal…

If you cannot understand what made Apple successful then or today what makes you think you're not failing to grasp something? You head right on to making an argument when nakedly revealing that you can't comprehend the other side. Not surprising, this site is made for the Woz's of the world (and that's fine!).

> This current iteration of Apple lacks the geniuses and visionaries that might have possibly justified their behavior at some point in the past, so you have a soulless corporate churn reinforcing the biggest walled garden in the history of humanity, with no apparent purpose except self perpetuation.

My read was that this addressed your point.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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The high resolution is a waste of money. The camera is a waste of money. The number of buttons is small. The issues like a hinge are non existant. The ability to pop out the battery is the kind of complicated thing I would expect from someone competent like a laptop maker.. The lack of Ram slots and now other slots is simplifying. Really Apple made the game field very simple and its no problem making a perfectly good…

> The camera is a waste of money. Camera is the main selling point for new phones. It may not be for you, but for most customers, camera performance is the key differentiator. Modern smartphone camera modules are incredibly high bandwidth. They are hooked up to custom chips that handle everything from video encoding to the massive amount of post-processing it takes to make those tiny sensors output high quality image…

You are trying to twist if to their favor that the market and not Google specifically is known for hardware problems, recalls and making a camera that 95% of people don't have any use for. What they have is control of Android which allowed them to cancel Android One to build a larger market for the pricing they want using pressure.

Look at what a marvel we can force them to buy for no reason! 80% of them have never made a video intentionally. A great marketing segment.

I had a cemetery of working phones and broken laptops all through past decades. I used laptops for longer than 3 years but I also didn't put them through the pressure a student would and could usually replace parts.

The phone industry is now an oligarchy and prices (and forced feature combinations) are up.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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I have this experience… until I turn it on and start to try and type stuff on the tiny keyboard or watch stuff on it again. Then I realise I’m glad I moved up a little

I agree with you, but I like the reminder that I probably shouldn't be using my phone for whatever I'm doing anyway. If I'm at home, I should make the small effort to get a tablet or a laptop. If I'm out, should I just set a reminder and do it later and listen to something instead? I realise that for many people, that time might be their only time available for doing whatever they were going to do, but on the other h…

That seems pretty judgemental. Lots of things I do that might not “look important” can be very important. I do a lot of work on my phone including research that would look like browsing to a bystander.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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Ultra principled users rarely if ever buy new devices or have predictable purchasing patterns in almost any way. Trying to appease this market is mostly a fools game, as they have learned.

I think it's like how everyone smart knows that small hatchbacks are the only cars worth buying, and everyone smart also knows that only idiots buy new cars. So, all new cars are made for idiots and no small hatchbacks get made :)

I’m sorry what? I read that comment and all I see is someone incapable of understanding that other people’s needs differ from their own, and only _smart_ people pick the choice that they themselves would make. It reeks of ignorance and being judgemental.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

#746

This seems like a good place to randomly drop my thoughts on switching from a Samsung s20+ to a Pixel 9 Pro. The hardware is excellent in the hand. The display is great, battery life excellent, the UI is snappy, does all the basic things I expect from a quality device. Over all, no huge regrets..... but... The scrolling in every app is just "different" from the Samsung, and in a "not as good" way. I moved to Pixel wi…

I feel compelled to stick with GrapheneOS even though I install Play Services and meta apps. I do miss several Samsung features. Most of all, the ability to set the Always-On Display to only show when new notifications pop up. It is easier to see at a glance that I have a message vs. squinting at how many faint lines are displayed to see the messages icon. DeX is a novel concept too, and with Samsung you can do USB-C…

This is now supported from Pixel 8 and above.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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You can't just look at units sold, you have to look at net units sold because the version of the product existed. For example, if 5.9 million of those 6 million people would have bought the larger iPhone model anyway, then you didn't actually gain much by offering the Mini unit. I have no idea what those numbers are, though.

> For example, if 5.9 million of those 6 million people would have bought the larger iPhone model anyway, then you didn't actually gain much by offering the Mini unit. If nothing else, you could still give the mini a higher margin and make some gains that way.

That’s another issue, those same users won’t tolerate paying more for a smaller phone. They’re picky and principled, which is a customer type that is just not worth chasing at scale.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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The people at Google seem to think much more like me than the people at Apple. There are 3 primary decisions Google made that click with me, while Apple's choices are a mystery to me: 1: When I put a Pixel on a table, it sits there stable. Because the backside is symmetrical. When I put an iPhone on a table, it wobbles. 2: When I sort my photos on a Pixel, I sort them in folders. The "camera" folder is where the unso…

I use an iPhone because Apple is more focused on privacy, and I don’t really need that many features on my phone.

> Apple is more focused on privacy

A more precise way to put it: Apple is focused on customer control, and will fight whoever tries to touch what they see as Apple's exclusive customers.

This has privacy benefits against tracking agents, reduces functionalities against third party services (Amazon, Spotify, Google, third party payment etc.), and forbids whole use cases (e.g. non Apple backup service).

As a customer one can be happy with the privacy windfall, but we've seen again and again that it's not Apple's focus per se.

Re: Pixel 10 Phones

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> Chrome OS isn't a real OS to me so I couldn't imagine using that as my daily driver as I would macOS Not sure I understand this? One assumes that "daily driver" involves Linux VM use in this context[1], and ChromeOS's Linux VM integration is just wildly ahead of WSL (which really isn't bad) or the mess on OS X (awful). Installed Crostini apps appear as native apps in the UI. Transparent cross-filesystem access work…

The Debian experience on my kid's Chromebook in Crostini is truly fantastic. The Android experience, on the other hand, leaves a lot to be desired. I had hoped a convertible Chromebook could give them access to all the learning apps across Linux, the web, and Android on a single device; but a lot of Android apps tell the Play Store they aren't compatible, and I have to jump through hoops to get them installed.

For a good experience running Android apps on ChromeOS you really need an ARM CPU and a decent amount of RAM (12 or 16).
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