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VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Post by deanishe »

jahewson wrote: post #634
makingstuffs wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In a word, division. The UK is so divided that people are too busy pointing the finger at each other to realise the root cause of the deterioration of our quality of life is entirely generations of mismanagement of the public purse. Instead of questioning how MPs are entitled to a pay rise while your average person gets made redundant, people are questioning why people fleeing persecution should ‘be paid for with my…

^^^ This is such a great example of the deranged elitist groupthink that dominates the UK’s national discourse. Holding the door open for fake asylum seekers costing billions while his fellow countrymen are laid off, and pointing the finger at MPs taking a few million between them.

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Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Post by alt227 »

sojournerc wrote: post #663
pfortuny wrote: post #527

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Well, you cannot drink alcohol if you are less than 21 in the USA, but you can vote.

You can also be drafted and/or die in a war. Absolutely absurd to think someone is old enough to enlist, but not have a beer

Its an easy distinction. In war you can be controlled, when you are drunk you cannot.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Post by alt227 »

rubyAce wrote: post #236
ChrisKnott wrote: post #31

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Do you have any examples of people being arrested for criticising a law? Most of the time these dystopian descriptions of the UK turn out to be completely overblown nonsense when you look into them properly.

There are discussions in parliament about grooming gangs on X. These are soft-censored (you can't see it without passing the the age verification). Few people will be bothered to make an account to see a post and pass age verification. Therefore it slows the sharing of information. It isn't about outright banning the discussion, because that will cause considerable push-back by the public. So you dress up a policy as…

But we are only in the first week of the bill passing. After say 6 months or a year, most people who want to see things on those platforms will have done the age verification, and therefore there will be no "soft censoring" or slow down of information.

This seems like a non issues isolated to the initial period of being introduced.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Post by [deleted] »

A_D_E_P_T wrote: post #641
supportengineer wrote: post #570

If you need to use a VPN in your country, maybe your government and elected officials have failed you, are not representing you, and need to be voted out.

Yeah, that's the problem. In the UK, thanks to the party system, "first past the post," and certain longstanding procedural and cultural norms, it's literally impossible to vote them out. At best, as we're now seeing, they'll go from Tories to Labour to Tories to Labour. With the members of both parties from the same schools, the same social circles, living in the same neighborhoods, and supporting the same policies.…

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Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Post by alt227 »

rpdillon wrote: post #347
p0w3n3d wrote: post #342

I must be honest with you, as far as I am pro net-neutrality, I can observe people using internet irresponsibly. As the internet stood up to allow sharing of science publications, now mostly shared is the pornographic type of content. When Tim Berners-Lee was thinking about people sending themselves a book he probably (we still may ask him) haven't predicted people sending boob/dick pics. As the content technical lev…

You can just configure their DNS to use 1.1.1.3. No need for the government to step in and manage your child's internet access.

You obviously have no experience with trying to block a modern teenager from the web. That will stop them for seconds, maybe minutes.

Im not for this bill at all, but I agree with what the government are saying about parents being unable to protect their children because the children know more about the systems than the parents do.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Post by alt227 »

mathgradthrow wrote: post #256

pornography does not harm children.

That is an incredibly neive view which has been proven wrong many times over.

Exposure to pornography early on in life dramatically increases the chance that person will be affected by things like sexual addiction, or gravitate towards extreme views in the same vein like incels.

Testosterone is a very powerful drug, and young brains need protecting from explicit content if we want to bring up mentally healthy males in our societies.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Post by tossandthrow »

immibis wrote: post #734
tossandthrow wrote: post #541

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> One tweak to the rules and all of a sudden not only do porn sites have to verify the age of their UK visitors but also anyone connecting from something other than a residential ISP. The UK does not have jurisdictional power over anything outside their country - they can not a foreign site to do age verification of foreign residents. Now, the UK can say that they need to check for all UK residents, regardless of the…

However, if I was running a foreign site not subject to UK law or other privacy law, with UK visitors, and I was a ruthless businessperson, I'd definitely implement this verification thing in order to collect and store a photo of every visitor.

Not if it means that you don't get any visitors

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

selfmodruntime wrote: post #665
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #59

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Yup, along the same lines as the “sharia no go zones” and “get stabbed six ways to Sunday every time you go outside” myths

Here is the Berlin Chief of Police admitting the existence of no go zones in the city for gay people and Jews) [1] [1] https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/berliner-polizeip...

Berlin and London are two different places.

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

octo888 wrote: post #521
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #59

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Yup, along the same lines as the “sharia no go zones” and “get stabbed six ways to Sunday every time you go outside” myths

Myths not without an element of truth. Have you spent any serious amount of time in Bradford, for example?

Yup, nice town, friendly people. Bit run down and scruffy, but that’s hardly the fault of the people who live there, rather the economic policies of several decades that destroyed the region’s industry and has failed to encourage growth for a replacement - similar to the USA’s rust belt or similar post-industrial regions in Europe.

Re: VPN use surges in UK as new online safety rules kick in

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Post by gampleman »

tim333 wrote: post #428
HDThoreaun wrote: post #137

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Very sad to see this from the country that produced some of the most influential pro freedom of speech philosophy the world has ever seen.

Freedom of speech is not the same as age restrictions on porn.

Exactly. The idea that pornography has to be available to anyone regardless of age/maturity at any time and for any reason is insane. I suspect that a lot of the (mostly judicial) lawmaking in this area did not foresee the internet and its impacts. There is a big difference in the allowing people to go see a pornographic film in a specialized seedy cinema (where age-gating is trivial) and having it available to every child in their pocket.
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