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The death of partying in the USA

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Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by tuna74 »

lawlessone wrote: post #12
lr4444lr wrote: post #6

The parental part bears special mention. My spouse and I find that we are overwhelmingly the ones calling to organize playdates rather than vice versa. I'd like to think it's not that my kids are poorly socialized or misbehave - they've always received glowing reports at school. I give my kids business cards with my phone number to pass out to their friends to give to their parents, and there is also a class list whe…

>I give my kids business cards with my phone number to pass out to their friends to give to their parents Yeah if i was a kid i'd be mortified at having to do this.

If you are 5 year old it would most probably feel strange.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by malloryerik »

rgblambda wrote: post #516
starkparker wrote: post #508

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Gen Z in particular is deathly afraid of having an earnest but unflattering moment captured in someone else's TikTok and distributed to the entire planet.

Whenever I watch movies/TV shows set in the future but released before the invention of the camera phone, I just insert some headcanon that future society realised the evils of uploading a recording of someone to social media without permission, and decided to ban the cursed devices.

Fun comment and I didn't know the word headcanon so, thanks.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by DaSHacka »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #736
DaSHacka wrote: post #721

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> Seems like an opening to build a SaaS to encourage kids to socialize. that's... not actually a terrible idea

SaaSifying every single part of life has honestly been building a pretty bad society so I have to disagree

I have to imagine it would turn out better than than what we currently have, which is an increasingly negative trend to nothingness.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by RyanOD »

Apocryphon wrote: post #684
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It depends. My dad pushed me to play a sport I despised. Hated it from when I was young all the way to my last games. But thank god he did. Changed my life completely. As a mediocre student, I could pick any school I wanted. Love my dad, and he knew what was best. Even if I hated playing, it was all worth it. Parents should set their kids up for success, and parents do know best - even if that means upsetting your ch…

It sounds like you had innate talent or aptitude that could be honed and take you places. Not all kids have that though, and can probably take it easy with sports and focus on growing other strengths.

It was less about having talent and more about developing in a great program - and that was just dumb luck.

I grew up in a midwest farm town that just happened to have a couple incredible coaches that ran exceptional sports programs. I also had older brothers who were better than me that I learned from.

I was less good and more tough in that I was pretty much the slowest guy on the team in college, but I could absolutely hold my own in practice. Unfortunately, due to the recent NCAA roster limits, there doesn't seem to be a place for athletes like me in college anymore.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by shlant »

dylan604 wrote: post #256
shlant wrote: post #244

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> affected by the corporate buying of single family homes > after corps, we have foreign buyers also coming in with cash offers As someone mentioned earlier in the thread, these are memes that are not actually backed by data - commonly perpetuated by groups that blame most issues on billionaires/corporations/investment firms.

So you're insinuating that the specific example of a house sitting empty owned by a foreign buyer is made up? In my neighborhood specifically, there are homes being bought not by single families but specifically buy management companies so they can then rent the property. To deny this happens is just as much of a stick your head in the sand meme as what you are accusing me of.

bring the data to back your claims or be ignored like you are ignoring all the responses to you

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by SideQuark »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #731
SideQuark wrote: post #702

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Houses today are vastly larger. Cost/sq ft in all but the few most expensive places has been nearly constant under inflation adjusted price for an incredibly long time. A huge majority of the population lives in such places. Here's a size list that is commonly shared https://www.newser.com/story/225645/average-size-of-us-homes... When you figure in # of people in such houses, the avg person has vastly more space http…

New builds may be larger today but the vast majority of real estate on the market are not new builds I bought my house in 2018. It was built in 1997 It is not vastly larger than it was in 1997, but I still paid 2018 prices for it Most people aren't buying new builds

Prices change due to inflation among other things, which is over 50 % from that time period. And given that the median house age (not median age of sold house!) is 40 years, you did buy a much newer house than the majority of people have.

A few years back, median age of sold house was 27 years. So by that metric you bought even a newer house than the majority of house sales.

Your 1997 house is almost certainly much larger than the median 1950 house.

And, your single data point in no way invalidates aggregate statistics.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by SideQuark »

bluefirebrand wrote: post #726
SideQuark wrote: post #700

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> It's really sad to me how we have completely fucked a lot of youth with social media, smart phones, and over-scheduling/over-protection. It's also fascinating how every generation in recorded history has similar claims about the next, yet somehow mankind has improved quality of life for so many. Simply google (without quotes) "list of ancients bemoaning youth" and read millennia of similar claims, some of which cou…

> yet somehow mankind has improved quality of life for so many I think it would be hard to argue that Gen Z has a higher quality of life than Gen X

Gen Z has worked far less and is much earlier in that career than Gen X, among many other things.

Incomes for each income quintile at the same age shows Gen Z as having more income than Gen X did. They are also statistically much worse with money and expenses.

You can dig all this out of historical Census data. Find personal (or household) income by age group, do the same for each cohort over time, inflation adjust, and it's pretty clear.

So I can certainly argue they have higher quality of life than Gen X at each point in their lives thus far.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by SideQuark »

hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #727
SideQuark wrote: post #700

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> It's really sad to me how we have completely fucked a lot of youth with social media, smart phones, and over-scheduling/over-protection. It's also fascinating how every generation in recorded history has similar claims about the next, yet somehow mankind has improved quality of life for so many. Simply google (without quotes) "list of ancients bemoaning youth" and read millennia of similar claims, some of which cou…

I think it's such a huge mistake to think "well, it's always been like that, this is just a continuation of what's been going on in recorded history." Especially when the data tells a very different story. For example, just look at one metric: weight. Kids these days (and, obviously, adults as well) are overweight and obese in numbers that are off the charts (off the charts because you barely had any obese kids in de…

I think it's such a huge mistake to cherry pick one or two metrics out of hundreds to claim something, while ignoring all the others, especially since you had to go outside the topics in the thread so far to bring in your pet metrics.

Re: The death of partying in the USA

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Post by Drunkfoowl »

germinalphrase wrote: post #364
Auracle wrote: post #341

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That's true. However, I worked as a photographer for about 10 years (quit about 2 years ago) and high school senior photos were one of my specialties, so I got to know a lot of teenagers. Overscheduling is, I think, the biggest issue. Most of the teens I worked with had something going on almost every night, to the point where rescheduling due to rain or heat was an absolute nightmare. Sports were the biggest offende…

I was a HS teacher for about a decade. The demands on kids and families around youth sports (especially private/club leagues) is out of control. I had students, 14/15-years-old, going to their school team practice then club team practice, not getting home until past 9 pm every night. Families from three states away would enroll their kids in my school half of the year to play on the hockey team (staying with local sp…

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