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Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#741

>I really was just a fuckin cog in a mega corp. This article could have been interesting if they talked about why they ever thought they weren't just a cog. Like what cognitive blinders did they have on? Does Google have a unusually effective "we're all a family" type of internal propaganda?

corpos are really good at creating a false narrative around shared missions/values/etc

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#742
I learned about "cog in the machine" a few years after starting in tech and I became a contractor and have been ever since (20+ years). I get paid a daily rate and as long as there is work I keep earning, no sick/holiday pay, no reviews, bs corporate networking for promotions etc.

I have zero job security and could be let go any time, but that's built into my rate and I realised that's the case for normal employees anyway as the OP has discovered to his horror. The funny thing is I have outlived many a "permanent" employee in some places I've worked.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#743

I've skimmed through the comments; and seen that most people have commented on the cog in the machine thing, or on layoffs in general and how they suck. To me, the shock from this blog post was about seeing a Chrome developer relations engineer whom I have grown to admire and who has been doing a stellar job educating web developers on new html and css features, get the sack. He was one of the best remaining speakers…

This certainly isn't new. I know someone who worked at Google who mentioned the company culture has been souring since the start of the pandemic. I suspect Google will have a slow death akin to Yahoo in the coming years.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#744

> Just like that. These statements always catch me a bit off-guard. Is there no such thing as a cancelation period in the US? When my employer wants to kick me out, he needs a good reason for that and I'd still be paid for 3 months. Which is often even longer, depending on how long you belong to a company. Edit: I'm in germany

There is a WARN[1] period before the employee is officially laid off, but their access to all the corporate resources are cut off immediately. From the employee perspective, they have lost everything the moment they are being told that they are laid off. It doesn't matter that they are still getting paid.

[1] https://edd.ca.gov/en/jobs_and_training/Layoff_Services_WARN...

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#745
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It can be shock to discover how little the company as an entity, and its upper management in particular, actually values you (or any other employee.) Employees are indeed cogs in a megacorp, and the relationship is transactional. The company demands loyalty because it can and because it is profitable, not because it will be reciprocated.

When it comes down to it everyone has their own interests as a priority so if a manager is told to let folks go they will gladly do it to keep their own job.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#746

I've skimmed through the comments; and seen that most people have commented on the cog in the machine thing, or on layoffs in general and how they suck. To me, the shock from this blog post was about seeing a Chrome developer relations engineer whom I have grown to admire and who has been doing a stellar job educating web developers on new html and css features, get the sack. He was one of the best remaining speakers…

> What does this say about Google's attitude to web and to Chrome? What does this say about Google's commitment to developer excellence? It probably says "the DOJ really is gonna force us to sell Chrome."

Unless the prospective buyer's name rhymes with Melon Tusk, I doubt the DOJ will do anything to challenge Google's web monopoly this strongly.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#747

I've skimmed through the comments; and seen that most people have commented on the cog in the machine thing, or on layoffs in general and how they suck. To me, the shock from this blog post was about seeing a Chrome developer relations engineer whom I have grown to admire and who has been doing a stellar job educating web developers on new html and css features, get the sack. He was one of the best remaining speakers…

> What does this say about Google's attitude to web and to Chrome? What does this say about Google's commitment to developer excellence?

Everything that's needed saying for at least the last decade.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#748

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google is just really bad at this, but seems to think it's not bad at this. It's sad since there is no excuse for it - plenty of companies conduct regular layoffs and role eliminations in more compassionate ways, it would not take much to survey and learn from their practices. Hell, IBM was often more compassionate about layoffs than Google. Some of it they've tried to become more formal about in ways that actually m…

Google didn’t used to be quite so bad at this. Back when they closed the Atlanta office, people there got a lot of notice and opportunity to find another role. The complaints were about not being allowed to go full-time remote. I wonder what changed?

When these businesses are in their growth phase, they're relatively lenient about spending and generous to employees. When these businesses run out of opportunities for market growth or entering new markets to improve the bottom line, they turn to cost cutting and squeezing more out of employees to improve the bottom line instead. It's a natural progression for every megacorporation as they hit the limits of their growth.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#749

> Relationships that took me years to cultivate… mostly going to be gone too. I don't want to sound condescending, but if being forced out of the job means end for your relationships built for years, maybe these relationships weren't built as they should. They should have been built with the people as people, not coworkers, and definitely not using company as the communication ground.

Most relationships do not survive being ripped away from the spatial and temporal context in which they were cultivated. How many of your middle school, high school and even college buddies do you still have a relationship with? I think there's some stigma with confronting the fact that relationships are just ephemeral. We are social creatures in the sense that we can cooperate with each other on a task laid in front…

>relationships do not survive being ripped away from the spatial and temporal context in which they were cultivated.

Very true, but also very unfortunate. The best people (a teeny almost non-existent minority) are not like that.

>weakly social with everyone except our direct family and significant others.

For a large number of people, (say 50 %) I suspect this is not true. Especially when people move from rural to urban areas.

Re: Googler... ex-Googler

#750

I really was just a fuckin cog in a mega corp. Yep. One of the most unfortunate realities of modernity. Your managers, or your managers managers, or their managers don't care about you. At all. If you ask them on the weekend, they'll decry that the things they are asked to do are horrible. but they'll still do it. Some gladly. They are themselves cogs in the machine. A machine that goes all the way to the executive c…

This has being like this when that changed from "Personal" department to "Human Resources"

Do the corp that is what you are!

The lower level of hell is definitely reserved of industrial psychologists and advertisers!

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