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Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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ryanSrich wrote: post #724
tptacek wrote: post #687

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I've heard of Wiz, but would have had a hard time listing out their feature/benefit statement, because I don't work with CSPM tools. I don't think this "I have doubts about what you actually do" line is doing the work you want it to; it may be backfiring on you a bit.

CNAPPs and CSPMs are extremely common tools in cybersecurity. This is my concern. If you're in cyber and don't have knowledge of these things you're either in something insanely niche, in research of some sort, or lack critical knowledge that you should have. There's a big responsibility as a security practitioner to stay up to date on new tools and techniques. CNAPP and CSPM is not some new thing that was invented l…

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Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by maxlin »

Well, crap. Inb4 their cheap and easily hackable bulbs I have integrated to my self-written automation things go to shit.

People who haven't forgotten what happened with Revolv remember.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by arachnids »

ryanSrich wrote: post #724
tptacek wrote: post #687

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've heard of Wiz, but would have had a hard time listing out their feature/benefit statement, because I don't work with CSPM tools. I don't think this "I have doubts about what you actually do" line is doing the work you want it to; it may be backfiring on you a bit.

CNAPPs and CSPMs are extremely common tools in cybersecurity. This is my concern. If you're in cyber and don't have knowledge of these things you're either in something insanely niche, in research of some sort, or lack critical knowledge that you should have. There's a big responsibility as a security practitioner to stay up to date on new tools and techniques. CNAPP and CSPM is not some new thing that was invented l…

You might want to google the person you’re arguing with

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by cess11 »

weatherlite wrote: post #444
tdeck wrote: post #402

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> I don't know if it's true There are polls about this that you could easily look up. Is your position that if most Israelis affirmatively support atrocities like this, the rest of the world should just pretend like we never saw that? > America has killed at least 100x more civilians than Israel has These aren't mutually exclusive. Israel is one of America's proxies. I'd support the international community putting sa…

> Is your position that if most Israelis affirmatively support atrocities like this, the rest of the world should just pretend like we never saw that? If the world should generalize over entire populations groups according to some poll then it should at least be consistent and not do it only to Israelis. If I find a poll that shows most Palestinians support October 7th would you immediately denounce every Gazan you t…

No, there isn't. There is exactly zero nuance in phenomena like death camps, torture camps and the systematic murder and torture of children and so on. If this is something you engage in, then you cannot be expected to be treated as a sane, full person. If you do this, or defend this, then you should expect harsh resistance, because that is a legitimate and ethical response.

It is telling that your fantasy about "Hamas fighters connected to extreme cases of violence and terrorism" helps you accept and tolerate systematic sexual abuse of palestinian men, but you don't draw similar conclusions from the actual, real, bombing of small children starving in haphazard tents. The palestinians do not have the capability to do "extreme violence", they just don't have the materials and tools and suppliers needed, because they suffer under occupation or in refugee camps.

The reason most jewish israelis are fine with the crimes their state is committing is not the palestinians themselves, which have a right to resist the occupation violently.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by EVa5I7bHFq9mnYK »

alephnerd wrote: post #516
heraldgeezer wrote: post #514

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It's for any country or heritage that isn't American or Northern European. A lot of really racist or xenophobic takes on HN.

Yeah, read a lot of H1B discussions here. Racism is seething.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by h4ck_th3_pl4n3t »

dinobones wrote: post #433

This makes no sense. Assume 1,000 customers each generating $2m in ARR with contracts. That’s $2 billion. Assume generous 6x ARR valuation, that’s $12 billion. Where is this $20 billion premium coming from? How could the board approve this? How is this fair to shareholders? Heck, as a minor shareholder in GOOG, I don’t find this financially responsible at all. I can’t help but think sometimes these tech acquisitions…

Cyber warfare and cyber defense cannot be measured in money easily.

Take a look at other Unit 8200 startups, or even Palantir. Palantir is much much much more worth than what they are on paper, especially with their Lavender AI involvements.

Cyber strategies have become so critical that it's a race between nations right now. The leading ones being Russia, Iran, China, North Korea and the US (while the US is heavily losing control, just in terms of malware and campaigns). Stuxnet forced the hands of the other nations, and they invested fully in Cyber eversince.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by rubenvanwyk »

DeathArrow wrote: post #735
czk wrote: post #256

> Wiz has raised a total of $1.9 billion from a combination of venture capital funds and private investors > Wiz agreed to acquire Tel Aviv-based Raftt, a cloud-based developer collaboration platform, for $50 million in December 2023. In April 2024, the company acquired cloud detection and response startup, Gem Security, for around $350 million > Wiz was founded in January 2020 by Assaf Rappaport, Yinon Costica, Roy…

>Adallom was founded in 2012 by Assaf Rappaport, Ami Luttwak and Roy Reznik, who are former members of the Israeli Intelligence Corps’ Unit 8200 and alumni of the Talpiot program. It's interesting that many people working in intelligence found ways to become very successful in business. I wonder what is the reason.

Intelligence communities tend to pick very smart people who are particularly good at acquiring niche skills and operating under extreme situational uncertainty. I think those are valuable attributes for someone in business.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by CokeFaultSoyuz »

DeathArrow wrote: post #735
czk wrote: post #256

> Wiz has raised a total of $1.9 billion from a combination of venture capital funds and private investors > Wiz agreed to acquire Tel Aviv-based Raftt, a cloud-based developer collaboration platform, for $50 million in December 2023. In April 2024, the company acquired cloud detection and response startup, Gem Security, for around $350 million > Wiz was founded in January 2020 by Assaf Rappaport, Yinon Costica, Roy…

>Adallom was founded in 2012 by Assaf Rappaport, Ami Luttwak and Roy Reznik, who are former members of the Israeli Intelligence Corps’ Unit 8200 and alumni of the Talpiot program. It's interesting that many people working in intelligence found ways to become very successful in business. I wonder what is the reason.

Blackmail

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by weatherlite »

cess11 wrote: post #744
weatherlite wrote: post #444

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Is your position that if most Israelis affirmatively support atrocities like this, the rest of the world should just pretend like we never saw that? If the world should generalize over entire populations groups according to some poll then it should at least be consistent and not do it only to Israelis. If I find a poll that shows most Palestinians support October 7th would you immediately denounce every Gazan you t…

No, there isn't. There is exactly zero nuance in phenomena like death camps, torture camps and the systematic murder and torture of children and so on. If this is something you engage in, then you cannot be expected to be treated as a sane, full person. If you do this, or defend this, then you should expect harsh resistance, because that is a legitimate and ethical response. It is telling that your fantasy about "Ham…

> The palestinians do not have the capability to do "extreme violence", they just don't have the materials and tools and suppliers needed, because they suffer under occupation or in refugee camps.

They did. They used that capacity to kill as many people as they could - they reached around 1200 people (+ 250 more kidnapped - many of whom died later) which is not a lack of capacity, and then the war started. Now they have much degraded capacity which is probably a good thing for Israeli civilians. If the Palestinian had a greater capacity to kill on October 7th they would have used it.

Re: Google to buy Wiz for $32B

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Post by daemin »

ryanSrich wrote: post #721
throwaway2037 wrote: post #714

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In your opinion, are they a whale because they make a great product... or just have a great marketing/PR/sales team? I am guessing "great product" because I cannot believe that Google cannot just rebuild it themselves (if not a great product).

Wiz is widely considered one of the strongest CNAPP/CSPM products on the market. I haven’t personally tested every single competitor’s solution, but I’ve found Wiz to outperform pan, crowdstrike, and prisma. To answer your question. Google doesn't acquire Wis because Google can’t build a comparable product themselves. The real driver is that Wiz has already achieved market penetration and trust. Replicating that from…

I highly doubt Google would be capable of building something like this from the ground up. Just take a look at one of their recent efforts Stadia.
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