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Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by ad_hockey »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #606
bargainbin wrote: post #468

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They’ve got the weird shit covered still, apparently the joy cons in this gen can be used as mice. Was heavily rumoured/leaked and this teaser video literally shows them gliding along a surface. How Nintendo will leverage that functionality, who could honestly say, but that’s the genius of keeping a toy company mindset in an industry full of sports car company mindsets.

Ha. Since when does Nintendo care about ensuring functionality they add to their devices are leveraged? Other than first party games, and even that can be limited, almost no one ever implements the weird little functionality they add to their devices.

Not just Nintendo. The PlayStation 4 controller had that touchpad in the middle that also clicked in to act as a button. I played a lot of games that used it as a button (usually to open a map, or something) and don't remember a single game that used it as a touchpad.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by dkkergoog »

basfo wrote: post #597
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I saw an interesting analysis years ago about whether or not the most powerful console 'won' in each generation (i.e. whether or not being the most powerful console of your generation leads to success). Generally speaking, no, it doesn't actually affect things, and in several cases (e.g. the Game Boy, the Wii, and the Switch come to mind) the objectively 'worse' console (from a tech perspective) was more successful b…

It's interesting how many people see the Switch as being in its own category rather than acknowledging it as the winner of this console generation (which I completely agree it is). Most people think the “console” battle is between PlayStation and Xbox, and that PlayStation is the winner. This is probably a big win for PlayStation’s marketing team.

Software, it can't be compared because of a unique catalogue. How would switch sales be impacted if Zelda was on the ps or Xbox?

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Manuel_D »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #615
SecretDreams wrote: post #499

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Which is also a gray area. I personally am fine with it for older, depreciated consoles. But I won't emulate current gen games unless I'm also buying the game.. especially on the Nintendo platform where the games still have some "magic" to them, compared to the more generic games on other platforms that prioritize graphics over seemingly all other attributes.

"You need to buy the game" hardly makes it a gray area.

Even if you buy the game you need to bypass encryption in order to dump the game data to run it on an emulator. A big part of why Nintendo prevailed in their lawsuit against Yuzu is that they proved the emulator could not be used without extracting encryption keys and bypassing copy protection.

So no, there's no legal way to use a switch emulator. At least not for playing commercial switch games, I guess you could theoretically home brew your own game to play on an emulator.

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by Manuel_D »

ZeWaka wrote: post #696
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Why pay for the Steam Deck, though? Buy it online and claim it never arrived to get a refund. I’m yet to hear a moral argument for emulating current games you don’t own unless you’re poor and need to choose between buying Zelda and starving.

What if you buy the game secondhand, cheaply? My friend got Animal Crossing with their switch for free with a bundle, but they don't like playing the game. This would be much better than paying full price for a game that never will go on sale.

Buying a used game means the original owner can no longer play, and has to repurchase if they want to play as again. The same is not true for emulators

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by hiatus »

TingPing wrote: post #555
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I'm playing single player games via Parsec and the latency feels fine. Moonlight is tolerable but Steam streaming feels terrible for some strange reason. This is running two Wifi 6 devices so nothing is even wired. I often use a controller connected to my laptop, or even better use the wireless controller, connect that to the physical device then you bypass the controller latency and only the video has a lag, which i…

Steam Streaming was what I used which was noticeably delayed, so I should try some alternatives.

Sunshine on the server and moonlight on the client blows steam link out of the water in terms of latency. Even on my home network with everything on ethernet, steam link would stutter. I sometimes forget I am not directly connected to a computer while on the couch.

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Post by jzwinck »

lotsoweiners wrote: post #652
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First Wii was able to play Game Cube Games. WiiU was backwards compatible to Wii. All theses consoles used nearly the same chipset anyways.

I was always amazed the Wii with its full size discs could play the GameCube mini discs.

Ability to play smaller discs was normal in most CD-ROM and DVD players for many years before the Wii. A few people (probably half of whom have HN accounts) used to give out mini-CD business cards...sometimes even with truncated edges so the disc was not entirely round: https://www.duplication.com/cd-business-card-duplication.htm

Re: Nintendo announces the Switch 2 [video]

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Post by hiatus »

lostmsu wrote: post #230
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I have gigabit, but no servers that are close, it's... rough

Shameless self-PR: we are building p2p cloud gaming at https://borg.games You should get low latency as long as anyone in your city joins as a provider.

What does utilization look like? I would be interested in running this on a spare machine but it's not clear how large the potential audience of renters may be in my area.

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Post by cgriswald »

bdhcuidbebe wrote: post #552
bluefirebrand wrote: post #379

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Downloading roms? Probably not Modding your Wii-U to run those roms? I feel that probably qualifies someone to be regarded as a hacker -type

I guess I shoild have quoted what I was referring to, since it seems to high ask to expect others to read the rest of the discourse. > If you're a hacker-type person who has already digitized your gamecube collection (or, let's be honest, downloaded the games illegally) Either way, I disagree with your definition too. The ”hacker-type” is the one figuring out how to mod the wii-u. The one following some instructions…

Gatekeeping the term hacker is... paradoxical.

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Post by kridsdale1 »

dmonitor wrote: post #707
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Personally I'd say both are true. They won the generation, but they did so by not bothering to fight directly with Playstation and Xbox. By basically ignoring them and having a distinct identity they won.

This framing only highlights either A. Sony has an amazing marketing strategy where they can paint their #1 competitor as not even a competitor. B. Xbox has a terrible product direction, where they are trying (failing) to beat Sony at being Sony instead of looking at the gaming industry and trying to create a product people want.

Regarding B, the Xbox has always primarily been a strategy to put the Windows kernel in to every living room.

From there, it’s made sense that they would use pc-tier components rather than phone-tier as Nintendo is on.

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Post by racl101 »

pipeline_peak wrote: post #456

This thing is gonna get swallowed in an ocean of steam decks and other similar clones. Unless you want to play the third installment of Mario Kart 8, I guess.

That is precisely the only reason people choose Nintendo over more powerful and capable devices. The Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Zeldas, Marios etc.

They got a robust ecosystem going on and with them shooting down pirating left, right and center they keep a tight ship going.

Nintendo has set themselves up so they don't need 3rd party titles to survive. Carved out a good niche for themselves. They don't even see themselves as direct competitors with Sony. They used to but that was a long time ago.

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