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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by twodave »

fngjdflmdflg wrote: post #734
twodave wrote: post #715

As a registered Republican who voted IND in 2016 and then for Trump in 2020 (which probably puts me in about a 0.1% minority on a site like this), I feel upset that the democratic process for choosing a nominee for the Democratic Party is about to just get bypassed. Are other folks feeling this? I’d be even more riled up if this were my party telling me, “Oh, that guy you voted for in the primaries? We thought he cou…

I don't think most democrats actually care who the president is as long as it isn't Trump. That's why they voted for Biden in the first place. It is kind of ironic though that the party of "saving democracy" will not put the winner of the primaries as their candidate but I think practically speaking there is already somewhat of a consensus among the party for doing this. Also see polling that shows Harris with equal…

I believe you, and the more I read the more I am seeing this same sentiment. It’s just wild to me.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by philsnow »

lisper wrote: post #603
tiffanyh wrote: post #533

Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

Airline pilots have a legally mandated retirement age of 65. Running the country seems like it's at least as mission-critical as flying a plane.

I heard just last night that domestically it’s now 68 years (or somebody is trying to make it 68), but this sucks for pilots who’ve been flying for a long time and are now doing mostly international flights, because the intl age is still 65. The upshot is they have to fly only domestically from 65-68 (and this can require retraining on smaller planes they don’t have currency with).

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by ceejayoz »

richiebful1 wrote: post #633
HarHarVeryFunny wrote: post #318

Not going to happen, but I wonder how a mixed party ticket would do. Kamala (or whoever) + Mitt Romney as VP ? Has it ever been done? Would it work to attract the center/swing vote, or more likely to be a negative?

It would be more politically palatable to pick a Senator Joe Manchin or Governor Andy Beshear. In other words, a Democrat so moderate that they can win in the reddest of states

Manchin has burned far too many bridges.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by asynchronous »

gumby wrote: post #32

One of the most effective presidents since Johnson or Truman. But he did campaign on a single term. Let’s hope the Dem’s circular firing squad puts down its guns so they can quickly concentrate on winning the election with someone … probably Harris is the simplest answer.

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by bg24 »

tiffanyh wrote: post #533

Putting politics aside … Why don’t they have an age limit on the president (or any elected office)? E.g., you must be younger than the average life expectancy (currently men: 73yo / female: 79) - while in office. https://www.ssa.gov/oact/STATS/table4c6.html

People who make the rules are the people in power, not citizens. People win power will always have the bias to do themselves a favor.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by drak0n1c »

energy123 wrote: post #222
purple_ferret wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately his domestic achievements have been somewhat mediocre. His signature achievements essentially were one time cash payments to people. I really do think his major failure was not pushing for a lasting achievement like implementing federal parental leave. He had the chance, but opted for a 1 year extension of child tax credits. And of course the US has an illegal immigration problem. European right on the…

"His signature achievements essentially were one time cash payments to people." Look at the $300bn climate funding in the Inflation Reduction Act and the impact on bringing chip manufacturing onshore with the Chips Act. All this with a nearly divided congress. Easily the most effective US president of my lifetime.

The CHIPS act has stagnated since its announcement, it comes with onerous DEI requirements on new chipmaker facilities which just compounds the shortage of skilled labor. There has been no progress on construction of announced facilities since the bill's passage.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by listless »

twodave wrote: post #715

As a registered Republican who voted IND in 2016 and then for Trump in 2020 (which probably puts me in about a 0.1% minority on a site like this), I feel upset that the democratic process for choosing a nominee for the Democratic Party is about to just get bypassed. Are other folks feeling this? I’d be even more riled up if this were my party telling me, “Oh, that guy you voted for in the primaries? We thought he cou…

Independent here. Did not vote Trump in 2020.

I tend to agree that for a party that spends a lot of time talking about the importance of democracy, we’re in fairly undemocratic territory here. However, you could make the argument that voters did kind of vote for Harris when they voted for Biden.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by [deleted] »

jackcosgrove wrote: post #720
jrflowers wrote: post #429

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is an interesting thought experiment. What would the US be like with a completely impossible ticket? Would we flourish under a Lenny Bruce-Knuckles the Echidna ticket? What if Misty and Brock were the respective RNC and DNC chairs? These are the sorts of questions the status quo politicians don’t want us to be asking

I'm still waiting for the Al Franken-Jill Stein dream team to take the stage.

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Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by whoknowsidont »

readthenotes1 wrote: post #29
strangelove026 wrote: post #8

Dannnnnng. I think it's definitely for the best (probably never should've come to this, reminds me of RBG). And that said I really, really liked his presidency, but, he is undeniably really old.

The problem isn't just his age, it's his decrepitude, both physical and mental. I know people in their 90s who are able to speak clearly at any hour of the day...

>I know people in their 90s who are able to speak clearly at any hour of the day...

Exactly zero of them have the demanding job of a president.

Re: Joe Biden stands down as Democratic candidate

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Post by jlev1 »

twodave wrote: post #733
joshmarinacci wrote: post #718

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voting for the candidate at the convention actually is the process. It always has been. It’s just been a while since the outcome of the vote was unknown until we got to the convention itself.

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Make up your mind, are you mad they pressured him to withdraw or mad they tried to keep him in the race?

Given your voting record and the fact that you’ve just criticized the democrats for two opposite courses of action in back to back posts (and I see your now several other posts hoping to find democrats mad at the DNC), I think you’re a plain ol’ conservative who’s inclined to find fault with the Democratic Party regardless of what specifically they do.

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