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Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by eggdaft »

gliched_robot wrote: post #722
LrnByTeach wrote: post #610

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Losers & Winners from Llama-3-400B Matching 'Claude 3 Opus' etc.. Losers: - Nvidia Stock : lid on GPU growth in the coming year or two as "Nation states" use Llama-3/Llama-4 instead spending $$$ on GPU for own models, same goes with big corporations. - OpenAI & Sam: hard to raise speculated $100 Billion, Given GPT-4/GPT-5 advances are visible now. - Google : diminished AI superiority posture Winners: - AMD, intel: th…

Disagree on Nvidia, most folks fine-tune model. Proof: there are about 20k models in huggingface derived from llama 2, all of them trained on Nvidia GPUs.

Fine tuning can take a fraction of the resources required for training, so I think the original point stands.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by simonklitj »

catchnear4321 wrote: post #498
simonklitj wrote: post #460

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I just can’t imagine sitting with a headset on, next to my wife, watching the NFL. It could very well change for me, but it does not sound appealing.

would your wife normally watch nfl with you? if yes, for you or for nfl?

Yes, and for NFL. It’s one of my favorite shared hobbies of ours!

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by virgildotcodes »

I imagine it's a given at this point, but I figured it was worth noting that it seems they trained this using OpenAI outputs. Using meta.ai to test the model, it gave me a link to a google search when questioned about a relatively current event.

When I expressed surprise that it could access the internet it told me it did so via Bing.

I asked it to clarify why it said Bing, when it gave me an actual link to a google search, and if this meant it was trained on OpenAI outputs. It said yeah but at this point I think it's just a bit gibberish given that it said that's why it linked to Google.

Screenshot of chat - https://imgur.com/dZglhPY

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by simonklitj »

agar wrote: post #496
simonklitj wrote: post #460

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I just can’t imagine sitting with a headset on, next to my wife, watching the NFL. It could very well change for me, but it does not sound appealing.

Nor could I. And I can't imagine sitting next to my wife watching a football game together on my phone. But I could while waiting in line by myself. Similarly, I could imagine sitting next to my daughter, who is 2,500 miles away at college, watching the name together on a virtual screen we both share. And then playing mini-golf or table tennis together. Different tools are appropriate for different use cases. Don't d…

Yes, these are all very good points. You’ve got me awaiting the future of the tech a bit more eagerly.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by ricopags »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #743

I imagine it's a given at this point, but I figured it was worth noting that it seems they trained this using OpenAI outputs. Using meta.ai to test the model, it gave me a link to a google search when questioned about a relatively current event. When I expressed surprise that it could access the internet it told me it did so via Bing. I asked it to clarify why it said Bing, when it gave me an actual link to a google…

You really should know better than to interrogate an LLM about itself. They do not have self-awareness and will readily hallucinate.

"Meta also announced a partnership with Google to include its real-time search results in the assistant's responses, supplementing an existing arrangement with Microsoft's Bing search engine."

from

https://www.reuters.com/technology/meta-releases-early-versi...

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by ben_w »

mrtranscendence wrote: post #194
sa-code wrote: post #122

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EU actually has the opposite of draconian privacy laws. It's more that meta doesn't have a business model if they don't intrude on your privacy

Well, exactly, and that's why IMO they'll end up pulling out the EU. There's barely any money in non-targeted ads.

Facebook has shown me ads for both dick pills and breast surgery, for hyper-local events in town in a country I don't live in, and for a lawyer who specialises in renouncing a citizenship I don't have.

At this point, I think paying Facebook to advertise is a waste of money — the actual spam in my junk email folder is better targeted.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by medo-bear »

glenstein wrote: post #526
medo-bear wrote: post #179

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>Nanny state is a nanny state. In my opinion this is a thought stopping cliche that throws the concept of differences of scale out the window, which is a catastrophic choice to make when engaging in comparative assessments of policies in different countries. Again just my opinion here but I believe statements such as these should be understood as a form of anti-intellectualism.

> Again just my opinion here but I believe statements such as these should be understood as a form of anti-intellectualism.

What is anti-intellectual about what I said? If you take a step back you see that your response actually contains no argumentative content.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by zarzavat »

ativzzz wrote: post #346
modeless wrote: post #237

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Seems like a year or two of MMA has done way more for his charisma than whatever media training he's done over the years. He's a lot more natural in interviews now.

Intense exercise, especially a competetive sport where you train with other people tends to do this

There is something especially confidence building about training martial arts, I personally believe it adjusts our fight-flight response, which is also kicking in in social situations.

It’s not just training with other people but becoming used to receiving physical insult, it dampens our baseline fear of physical attack that we all feel in our factory default configuration.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by namibj »

gliched_robot wrote: post #724
realce wrote: post #443

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That's a strange list of nations, isn't it? I wonder what their logic is.

GPU server locations, maybe?

LLM chat is so compute heavy and not bandwidth heavy that anywhere with reliable fiber and cheap electricity is suitable. Ping is lower than average keystroke delay for most who haven't undergone explicit speed typing training (we're talking 60~120 WPM for between intercontinental to pathological (other end of the world) servers). Bandwidth matters a bit more for multimodal interaction, but it's still rather minor.

Re: Meta Llama 3

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Post by yakorevivan »

mvkel wrote: post #732
nickthegreek wrote: post #17

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And they even allow you to use it without logging in. Didnt expect that from Meta.

1. Free rlhf 2. They cookie the hell out of you to breadcrumb your journey around the web. They don't need you to login to get what they need, much like Google

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