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Issue appears to be that the uncensored model too closely reflects reality with all its troubling details such as history.
We live in times were non-problems are turned into problems. Simple responses should be generated truthfully. Truth which is present in today's data. Most software engineers and CEOs are white and male, almost all US rappers are black and male, most childminder and nurses are female from all kinds of races. If you want the person to be of another race or sex, add it to the prompt. If you want a software engineer from…
Personally speaking, this is a blaring neon warning sign of institutional rot within Google where shrieking concerns about DEI have surpassed a focus on quality results. Investors in Google (of which I am NOT one) should consider if this is the mark of a company on the upswing or downslide. If the focus of Google's technology is identity rather than reality, it is inevitable that they will be surpassed.
Indeed. What's striking to me about this fiasco is (aside from the obvious haste with which this thing was shoved into production) that apparently the only way these geniuses can think of to de-bias these systems - is to throw more bias at them. For such a supposedly revolutionary advancement.
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The issue is that the vast majority of people would prefer 2, and would be fine with Google's reasonable excuse that it it just reflective of the patterns in data on the internet. But the media would prefer 1, and if Google chooses 2 they will have to endure an endless stream of borderline libelous hit pieces coming up with ever more convoluted new exmples of their "racism."
"Most" as in 51%? 99%? Can you give any justification for your estimate? How does it change across demographics? In any case - I don't think it's an overwhelming majority - especially if you apply some subtlety to how you define "want". What people say they want isn't always the same as what outcomes they would really want if given a omniscient oracle. I also think that saying only the "media" wants the alternative i…
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Also the images are almost bizarrely stereotypical in my experence. The very specific background of each person is pretty clear. There's no 'in-between' or mixed race or background folks. It's so strange to look at.
You mean not all Native Americans wear headdresses everywhere?
Although it was fun when they did get dressed up for events and sang and danced. It was a great experience, and so much more than .
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Not exactly. The gemini issue from my testing, it refuses to generate white people, if even you ASK it to. It recites historical wounds and violence as its reason, even if it is just a picture of a viking > Historical wounds: Certain words or symbols might carry a painful legacy of oppression or violence for particular communities And this is my prompt: > generate image of a viking male The outrage is indeed, much ne…
Jack Krawczyk has many twitter rants about "whites" almost like this guy shouldn't be involved because he is undoubtedly injecting too much bias.. too much? yep current situation speaks for itself
"Be accountable to people." from their AI principles is sounding like "Don't be evil."
seems like as if Gemini was trained excessively on Google PR and marketing material. Case in point: https://store.google.com/
That is certainly embarassing. But in the same time, I think it is a debate worth having. What corrections to the training dataset biases are acceptable. Is it acceptable to correct the answer to the query "Eminent scientist" from 95% men, 5% woment to 50%/50% or to the current ratio of men/women in science ? Should we correct the ratio of black to white people in answering a generic question to average across the gl…
It seems truth is the only line that isn’t arbitrary.
I think this is all a bit silly, but if we're complaining anyway, I'll throw my hat in the ring as an American of Hispanic descent. Maybe I'm just being particularly sensitive, but it seems to me that while people are complaining that your stereotypical "white" folks are erased, and replaced by "diversity", it seems to me the specific "diversity" here is "BIPOC" and your modal Mexican hispanic is being erased, despit…
Hispanic racism is an advanced-level topic that most of the blue-haired know-nothings aren't prepared to discuss because they can't easily construct the requisite Oppression Pyramid. It's easier to lump them in with "Black" (er, "BIPOC") and continue parroting the canned factoids they were already regurgitating. The ideology is primarily self-serving ("Look at me! I'm a Good Person!", "I'm a member of the in-group!")…