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Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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So how do retinal scans protect against Sybil attacks exactly?

I don't believe that they do, in fact, it is probably trivial to make a fake WorldCoin identity, but people who support WorldCoin largely support it on the assumption that this is not possible.

It does

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #109

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their long term project doesn't save or store retina patterns in any way. they store of a hash of it that is mathematically impossible to reverse. it's clear you wildly misunderstand how this works, i would encourage you to go learn more. i'd also welcome you to explain how the crypto side of it is bad in comparison to other uses of blockchains

Why are you lying to protect sama’s reputation? Worldcoin stores the biometric data for opt-in users. They say it themselves. It’s stored “encrypted” which means the original data is retrievable, and kept in Worldcoin’s custody. All Worldcoin claims is that it has safeguards against retrieving the data it does collect and store, like say Equifax or 23andme claim about your PII.

Why are you being hostile?

I said for the long term project they aren't storing any biometric data. They are doing it now to better train models, but long term it's not something they will gather at all nor need to gather.

The retina scan hashes that are stored are not reversible, at all.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #95

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Presumably they're jumping ship with Sam, and I'd assume that they'd assume that Sam would uphold the same perceived integrity at MS

Sam's integrity would be at home at Microsoft, for sure.

keyword "perceived"

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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'Interesting' -> 'you're barking mad'.

One example, sorry for the bad translation from Bavarian, would be: "You can see it that way (as well)". Which can basically mean, a) you might actually have a point or b) you are dead wrong.

Can you show the German?

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #363

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These are donations. How that becomes investment / financial stakes? (It is a question, since how the transition to capped-profit left a lot of questions unanswered).

Donations are to the non-for-profit, but now that there is a for-profit arm, private investors can purchase "stock" if you want. Share of the company that grants them some percentage of the company profit (when it eventually starts turning a profit). And they can also resell those "shares" to other people, at whatever prices people are willing to pay for them. The only restriction is there is a 100x cap on return. So…

Yes. But my post (and the one I replied to) are talking about Jessica's early donation to OpenAI non-profit. Did that somehow "transferred" to be shares in the for-profit or did Jessica purchased some during the transition (hence the financial interests OP accused her of)?

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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One example, sorry for the bad translation from Bavarian, would be: "You can see it that way (as well)". Which can basically mean, a) you might actually have a point or b) you are dead wrong.

Can you show the German?

The Bavarian: So konnst des a segn. German: So kann man das auch sehen

It looses a lot in writing, and I suck in writing Bavarian.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #78

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If you want to be a doomer, you don't need agi, just autonomous weapons, which ML can definitely help build.

Maybe I'm reading you wrong, but...So any counterpoint to your AGI view is irrational pessimism? I'm not bein doomer, this is just what I see going forward. I think AGI can be positive, but it depends vastly how we configure that. And this is not the path that I see is best. That's it. I get if you're a 100% AGI optimist and see any dissent to that as out of touch, but it's a leeetl disrespectfully reductive to try t…

“DisRespect and insult” is a strange take on strategic advice. And While I’m already probably on a few lists, I don’t feel safe spelling it all out

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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If Paul Graham fired Sam Altman from YCombinator it's interesting that he appears to have such a favourable opinion of him [0]. However, personally, what I've taken away from this is that he is a much better strategic/tactical operator than many other high-flying executives and very capable of winning the respect and trust of a lot of smart people. I wouldn't expect OpenAI to be run by anybody that wasn't revered in…

pg can both respect Altman's abilities, while concluding that his presence could be detrimental to his own objectives.

It's not in either man's interests to create drama, either.

It all makes me wonder what really happened with Musk and OpenAI. There's so much we don't and can't know about these billionaires and their internal sparring, despite the fact that we give them such huge amounts of control over our society.

Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #521
post #305

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If I didn't know Graham was English, perhaps I would take them at face value - and, indeed, perhaps I should anyway. (And my characterisation was an extreme one!) But: they do just all sound rather coldly backhanded, if you ask me.

Well, I'm also English and I didn't read them that way. However, I do think that Paul is telling people that competing with Sam in certain domains would be extraordinarily difficult. The other thing is that if you take a look at Paul Graham's blog posts, he used to regularly thank Sam at the bottom of these -- this isn't something you do if you don't like or respect someone. However, on the other hand, perhaps they f…

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Re: Before OpenAI, Sam Altman was fired from Y Combinator by his mentor

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post #742

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Why are you lying to protect sama’s reputation? Worldcoin stores the biometric data for opt-in users. They say it themselves. It’s stored “encrypted” which means the original data is retrievable, and kept in Worldcoin’s custody. All Worldcoin claims is that it has safeguards against retrieving the data it does collect and store, like say Equifax or 23andme claim about your PII.

Why are you being hostile? I said for the long term project they aren't storing any biometric data. They are doing it now to better train models, but long term it's not something they will gather at all nor need to gather. The retina scan hashes that are stored are not reversible, at all.

So they are doing it but might not later, alright
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