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Greg just quit too: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
I think that clears up the personal indiscretion theory. If others are willing to voluntarily follow you out, I would say it points to some internal power struggle that underlies this whole affair.
Plausibly there is a disagreement about the release of GPT-5. One side may believe it is competitively necessary (given Google’s impending release), countered by a concern regarding the model’s safety and lapses due to prematurity.
If we are to believe next-gen models are 10x as capable and natively multi-modal, their release is a precipice, and a winner-take-all vs. nth-order-risk debate may warrant decapitation.
I have a theory. Ilya has always seemed like he was idealistic and I’m guessing that he was the reason for OpenAI’s very strange structure. Ilya is the man when it comes to AI so people put up with his foolishness. Adam D'Angelo is, like Ilya, an amazing computer science talent who may have shared Ilya’s idealistic notions (in particular OpenAI is non-profit, unless forced to be capped profit and is categorically not…
Would any of this have been a surprise given all that you've detailed above? What would they have honestly been expecting?
Going the other way.. imagine you worked at a company that put ideals first but then you find out they were just blindly hyping that lie so they could vault themselves into the billionaires club by selling your shared ideals out from underneath you? To, of all players, Microsoft.
> when you have the (perhaps) the most valuable product in the world.
Maybe the people who work there are a little more grounded than this? Viewed through this lens, perhaps it's extremely ungenerous to refer to any of them as "looney tunes."
- Cant be a personal scandal, press release would be worded much more differently - Board is mostly independent and those independent dont have equity - They talk about not being candid - this is legalese for “lying” The only major thing that could warrant something like this is Sam going behind the boards back to make a decision (or make progress on a decision) that is misaligned with the Charter. Thats the only fir…
And Brockman (Chairman of the board) has resigned.
I have a theory. Ilya has always seemed like he was idealistic and I’m guessing that he was the reason for OpenAI’s very strange structure. Ilya is the man when it comes to AI so people put up with his foolishness. Adam D'Angelo is, like Ilya, an amazing computer science talent who may have shared Ilya’s idealistic notions (in particular OpenAI is non-profit, unless forced to be capped profit and is categorically not…
Is it being non comp-sci that automatically invalidates proper usage of your actual name? Or is there another key by which their names are less worth?
They are also both fairly established in their respective fields - which - yes - isn’t hard comp-sci, but if you think tech companies should have purely comp sci board leads, I’d call that incredibly naive.
They were also presumably vetted by the other board members - unless you think they are serving a different purpose on the board (diversity targets?) - which if so - puts the comment from red flag into mysoginist territory.
Personally I don’t see anything in their CV’s that would disqualify them from executing their function on the board, and I wouldn’t call them incompetent in being able to assess whether a person lied or not (which even in your theory - Sam would’ve done). You don’t need to be an ML/AI expert for that.
Greg just quit too: https://twitter.com/gdb/status/1725667410387378559
I think that clears up the personal indiscretion theory. If others are willing to voluntarily follow you out, I would say it points to some internal power struggle that underlies this whole affair.
When stuff like this happens it’s an insane abandon ship moment. Of course, obviously it is, but people will act in ways that are strange if you don’t know what’s going on internally.
Things like smooth transitions don’t happen and people basically willing to crawl into a cannon and get hurled away if it removes that person NOW.
Sam Altman was the business side. Ilya Sutskever is the brains behind OpenAI. I don't think changes anything.
Ilya booted him https://twitter.com/karaswisher/status/1725702501435941294
This should be higher voted. Seems like an internal power struggle between the more academic types and the commercial minded sides of OpenAI. I bet Sam goes and founds a company to take on OpenAI…and wins.