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Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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You are in their target market of who they can really squeeze since you want something a little bit special. Their memory pricing has always been absurd. Even on an older MacBook it was often +$200 for something silly like a 16GB SODIMM that costs $50 at the store. I still think their build quality , screen quality and OS are pretty much unmatched.

It’s worse. The configurator is labeled with a relative price upgrade but an absolute RAM size. The actual deal is +$200 for +8 GB RAM which is outrageous.

Sure, but they aren’t charging you anywhere close to cost. It’s painful for a company that size to add an option like this. Plus they know they can add a chunk on because if you’re in the market for that option, they know how much you want it.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Seems like apple's software is lagging far behind their hardware. To this day I can't reliably use Facetime for a call. Often times its ringing on my mac but the other use gets nothing. Maybe take some time to fix your software as well, apple?

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One thing that left me a bit confused was the comparison against Intel Macs. Although I am still using an Intel 16-inch MacBook, I really wanted to see how the M3 fared against the M2, not Intel and M1. I think it's no surprise the M3 exceeds the Intel Core i7-9750H in basically all of Apple's own benchmarking. My real question, which will probably be answered next week, is how it compares to the generation right bef…

I think this is squarely aimed at people who are holding onto their Intel-based Macs with an iron grip. There are always people out there that don't ever want to move to another architecture. I saw it going from Motorola 68030s to PowerPC. I saw people not wanting to upgrade from PowerPC to Intel. Now we're still seeing the people who don't want to migrate to Apple Silicon. They may have legit reasons and what-not. B…

Nobody has to upgrade. m68030 Macs still worked after the PowerPC transition. I used my Mac mini G4 for years after the Intel transition, and still use both an m68030 Mac and that G4 mini with NetBSD now.

Currently I'm running Sonoma on a 2010 MacBook Pro. I'd love an ARM-based Mac, but can't afford one yet. I'd have to disagree about the idea that "time is ticking"...

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I have an 16GB M1 Pro and it's a great machine. I want to jump the shark on a M3 max. Feels like some computer that should last 4-5 years much like my m1. However I keep an ugly ass full AMD Asus ROG laptop running Linux for gaming. I want to wait for the dust to settle on the Proton-like compatbility layer feature. I know crossover exists but past experiences lead me to believe is not as compatible as Proton. Back i…

Hopefully, but at least from my (non-professional) perspective, Apple makes it difficult to make software for macOS

- no support for cross platform gfx apis (opengl, vulkan

- requires physical Mac to publish, no support for emulation

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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Other than the fact that I can’t upgrade the OS and increasingly vendors only support M-series chips there is nothing wrong with my Intel MacBook Pro.

If you are not running latest, your system might not be fully patched: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/10/apple-clarifies-secu...

So there are downsides to not upgrading.

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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One thing that left me a bit confused was the comparison against Intel Macs. Although I am still using an Intel 16-inch MacBook, I really wanted to see how the M3 fared against the M2, not Intel and M1. I think it's no surprise the M3 exceeds the Intel Core i7-9750H in basically all of Apple's own benchmarking. My real question, which will probably be answered next week, is how it compares to the generation right bef…

For years now, Apple's biggest competitor is Apple from five years ago. One of their biggest threats is that sales flatline because people are still using their perfectly good laptops and phones from several years ago. And that's a hard problem to deal with when you advertise your products as high-end goods that will last a long time.

They have solved this though by periodically introducing incompatible macOS updates, so that eventually you can no longer install the current macOS and then after a while you won't be able to install latest version of applications and you start to feel stronger need to upgrade...

Re: Apple unveils M3, M3 Pro, and M3 Max

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These are still going to be used in laptops with soldered flash chips for the SSD. Apple's laptops aren't meant to be used by people who expect to repair their laptop when the storage fails. Many people don't have access to replacement chips and services to have the flash chips found on the board replaced. It's as if their hardware is meant to be e-waste. The RAM is still not ECC. They focus so much on the shallow ma…

> It's as if their hardware is meant to be e-waste.

But the chassis is made from 100% recycled aluminum!~

On a serious note, Apple has a simple and working strategy, to which they're 100% committed: repair only in authorized service points, otherwise recycle. Making devices user-repairable adds costs and compromises on specs; you can't put a number on the disks being replaceable as easily as you can put a number on size, IO bandwidth, or number of write cycles, and numbers is what looks good on benchmarks.

You also have to consider Apple's scale: they have literally billions of deployed devices (everything from AirPods to Mac Pros) that they need to support, so what could work for a different vendor won't necessarily work for them.

(I don't necessarily agree with that strategy from end-user POV, merely pointing out the context.)

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Out of curiosity, how much RAM do you have on your MacBook to run containers?

How much RAM do you want to give the containers on your MacBook? I'm being facetious, but it's an unanswerable question.

However much you set on the slider, so not quite so unanswerable.
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