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Post by api »

christophilus wrote: post #739
afavour wrote: post #234

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I couldn't disagree more. I don't see any sign Meta understands what made Twitter great, and the fact that they're heavily branding it with Instagram, using Instagram logins etc suggests to me that they're just looking for another angle to vacuum up user data. Maybe I'm unusual but the accounts I follow on Instagram and Twitter do not have a huge amount of crossover so the fact that their onboarding process tries to…

Serious question: for all of you “Musk / Zuck doesn’t get it” folks, what made Twitter great? I’ve never understood the appeal of it. Count me in the camp of those who don’t understand what made Twitter great.

Twitter is this anywhere you want it, no office visit required:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAvcGcEc0k

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

hhh wrote: post #635
luckystarr wrote: post #524

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People on the Fediverse expected it very much. Meta already was trying to talk to the larger instances "off the record"[1]. Fediverse users are already planning to boycott any instance which federates with Meta to block any Embrace, Extend and Extinguish moves. [1] https://fosstodon.org/@kev/110592625692688836 edit: More info here: https://wedistribute.org/2023/06/fedipact-blocking-meta/

This behavior is pathetic. As long as Meta is open to federation to other instances, this can only be a good thing for the entire ecosystem.

There is a very real concern that there will be a flood of hate speech, scams, and ads. Meta has shown themselves to be absolutely terrible at moderation in recent years.

Believe it or not, most Mastodon / Fediverse admins & users aren't interested in taking over the world and having a huge reach. They just want a nice community.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by jefc1111 »

pjc50 wrote: post #685
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I've not seen anyone mention this yet, but: UK twitter is laughing at "Threads" because it's also the title of a notorious made-for-TV horror film about nuclear war https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090163/ > There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative I'm not quite convinced by this; I think there's demand for things to go back how they were, but that's unsmashing the glass and is fundamentally impossible. Everyon…

Also came to see if anyone mentioned Threads, the film. Really great film, but certainly leaves an impact on the viewer. Slack has a feature called 'Threads' and for a long time after they introduced it, every time I opened the app I got a shiver of fear down my spine. This is one of quite a number of reasons I don't imagine I will be using Meta's offering.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by vidarh »

zpeti wrote: post #581
mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

Here's why this is an uphill battle, which no-one seems to understand. Everyone who actively participates in twitter, and even has a modest following, is tied to twitter. You cannot move a 100k followers from twitter to thread. All the influential people HAVE to keep using twitter to serve their followers. Even if they build a following on thread, it will take years to build what they have on twitter.

The problem with this is that that following is only worth something if they actually see your posts, and stats on twitter makes it clear how small a proportion of your following will see any given of your tweets. Other interaction drives that home as well. Typically people seem to largely get far more engagement with a far smaller number of followers on Mastodon, and the same will be true on other new platforms for two simple reasons: Attrition and the algorithmic feed. Most long lived accounts will have a huge number of followers that have simply stopped using twitter, and secondly the default being the "for you" tab means that people have a habit of following accounts they never engage with or ever even see a tweet from, and so the follower numbers on Twitter are vastly overestimating how many people are actually meaningfully "following" you in the sense that they're still logging in and seeing what you tweet.

Doesn't mean you won't still have a challenge building up a presence again on a new platform, but getting to the point of equal engagement in a new platform where users are motivated and active only takes a tiny proportion of your followers to make the move.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by ethanbond »

elforce002 wrote: post #98
ethanbond wrote: post #43

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Seems closer to the ending at this point (for Twitter).

So, the ending of twitter is to switch to Threads with FB's content moderation guidelines? I don't think so. We have social media fatigue rn. Twitter is is ok to get info really fast, rarely goes down, you have access to all kind of views (from extreme left to extreme right). This is the main reason gab, truth social, etc... won't be mainstream. Fb hasn't been original from a long time. From trying to launch a substa…

I think the vast majority of people don’t care much about what happens at the outer bounds of content moderation. Most people go to Twitter for pretty normal internet conversations, which are increasingly difficult to have there: the Blue buffoons being at the top of every thread with nothing worthwhile to say, the constant spotlight on Elon drama, rate limiting, huge jump in bugginess, etc.

FB allows a sufficiently diverse, extreme, and even toxic political environment on FB for most everyone. What kind of content would Threads forbid that is more crucial to Twitter users than a functional service?

Putting the content of people who have to pay for engagement above everyone else was one of the most heroically dumb product decisions I’ve ever heard. I was fine putting up with everything else but then the service just became legitimately not compelling because of that.

Re: Threads, an Instagram app

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Post by api »

mullingitover wrote: post #93

I'm calling it now, this is going to hollow out twitter in extremely rapid fashion. I give twitter a couple of months once this launches, they'll do a Wile E Coyote where they walk off the cliff, followed by plummeting. Meta is going to grind the blue bird to a fine powder, not saying this as a Meta fan, just a casual observer. There's massive pent-up demand for an alternative, and so far Bluesky and Mastodon haven't…

I won’t be using it, but it will probably absorb a lot of the dopamine scrollers from Twitter and those are the people advertisers most want. So yes it probably will hasten Twitter’s demise.

I don’t think original Twitter is coming back in any form. Tech people and a few lefties go to Mastodon. Cryptobros go to Nostr. Scrollers go to Threads if they aren’t already on TikTok. Not sure who is going to Bluesky.

Twitter will be left with culture war trolls screaming at each other and outrage porn. That’s not going to attract a lot of ads.

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