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Reddit Strike Has Started

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Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by wincy »

NegativeK wrote: post #627
AlexandrB wrote: post #554

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> The very nature of the site is self moderating. Let people post what they want and vote on it. This only works (mostly) for legal content. Unfortunately a lot of illegal content would be highly popular and upvoted if not moderated. It also doesn't really work when a subset of users engage with the system in bad faith or leverage bots. Paid moderation is expensive - even if offshored - and I'm surprised that Reddit…

> This only works (mostly) for legal content. It doesn't work even then. I've never (_never_) seen a community get large and be able to moderate itself with just technology like upvotes/downvotes. Someone needs to say "You're violating our community standards; get out." Large, in this case, means big enough that cliques form. That happens well before a thousand people.

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Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by choudharism »

rjh29 wrote: post #619
choudharism wrote: post #441

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This is so many layers of unhinged rhetoric, picking out individual points to break them down and debate them will be fruitless. One thing though... Moderator is most certainly a noun, and can be an adjective when placed in front of a "candidate". What are you even on, man. https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/moderator

> moderators are supposed to be the people who actually take actions to steward a community, not people who claim a title and never take action, not people who abuse the privileges to push an agenda, not people who do things that aren’t in the interest of the communities they serve. Not absentee founders. I'm not the OP but that context makes it pretty obvious the OP is being figurative.

Yes, and poorly. Like the rest of the post is an argument, but a poor one.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by vkou »

wpietri wrote: post #390
AmericanOP wrote: post #385

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They wasted half a decade not building promised moderation tools for the people who create value on Reddit. Instead they were busy running cost/benefit analyses on how aggressive the dark patterns to drive users to the maligned mobile app should be.

I still feel bad for whatever web developer had to check in the "this page looks better in the app" banner.

It's a job. Some people are paid to shoot rockets into cities, some people are paid to deny healthcare coverage, some people are paid to lie on television, and some people are paid to lie on dark pattern banners.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by allmadhare »

themagician wrote: post #401
OldManRyan wrote: post #314

There's a good number of people saying this strike is meaningless and reddit's API change will only affect a tiny % of users. I want to explain why I believe they are wrong. Engagement is a power curve. Most content is created by a small subset of users. I think it is a fair to say that if you use and especially pay for third party tools, whether that be a client or something like RES, you are more than likely a powe…

Most of the content is also modded by a small subset of mods—literally dozens. You've got maybe a hundred mods who are "power mods" that control the vast majority of large subreddits, and these are the ones "protesting". They don't own the subreddits. They have no rights to them, but they like to pretend that they do. Their moderation has, in many ways, become oppressive to the userbase. You don't hear about it becau…

The fact that you can go on reddit right now and enjoy it without all the annoying power users is only more reason to start visiting in my books. Hell I might even finally download the app.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by dude187 »

Blackthorn wrote: post #121
bottlepalm wrote: post #115

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A curated set of links, rated, sorted, filtered, and discussion. That’s the content you want and are having a tantrum about not having free access to. You are free though to access the referenced content on your own if you can find out about it on your own.

Who curated them, rated them, sorted them, filtered them, and discussed them? Not Reddit. They're just the landlord here.

You forgot the most important part. Who actually created the content?

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by dude187 »

bottlepalm wrote: post #129
raincole wrote: post #56

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> The app they’re burning down Reddit over is Lmao. Do you even realize what all these are about...? Reddit's pricing API policy is making ALL the apps unsustaniable. It's not "the app". > Facebook is $200 ARPU in the US. Yeah so? Only users and mods in the US matter and fuck the rest of the world? Plus Reddit is, surprisingly, not Facebook. I don't even understand why you're comparing them. Actually I believe many p…

If you ran a website, would you allow 3rd parties to reproduce and sell your data for free?

Users created, curated, promoted, moderated the entirety of the content for free. Guess that should stop

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by weaksauce »

brucethemoose2 wrote: post #606
yanderekko wrote: post #566

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>Engagement is a power curve Sure, but the degradation of the UX based on these changes seems to be pretty exaggerated in my view. How many of these powerusers are only using Reddit through a 3rd party client and would quit the site over having it closed? My guess is that the answer is "not many", and Reddit is clearly banking on this... and why would I trust angry activists over Reddit's own internal analysis? More…

Would removing old.reddit.com break the site for you? It would for me, and thats the trajectory. The new UI is an absolute pig.

yeah i could probably get by not using reddit on my ipad even if i didn't like the change... but not having old.reddit would be a monumental no from me.

Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by jiggawatts »

two_handfuls wrote: post #582
tomcam wrote: post #350

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How is Twitter rapidly decaying? I am a daily, but very light user so I may not be observing the trends as well as you.

The company lost half of its value in six months, according to Elon Musk himself [1]. Anecdotally, due to Musk's support of extreme-right views (for example re-inviting Trump [2], supporting DeSantis [3], or protecting bullying [4]), many people have left in protest and so these views are over-represented on the site. The word "decay" seems appropriate. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/26/technology/elon-musk-twit…

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Re: Reddit Strike Has Started

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Post by miked85 »

rjh29 wrote: post #614
dasil003 wrote: post #327

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Meh, Twitter and Reddit monetize just fine with ads. The problem comes in with VC expectations where everything must 1000x or die. These are not bad businesses, they're just small compared to Facebook or Google. What's needed is mature leadership that recognizes the value comes from the community, and following the private equity playbook of strip-mining the value is short-sighted.

According to the spez AMA, Reddit is not profitable.

I have a feeling that once they turn off the old reddit UI option, it will be even much worse.
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