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Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

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Hedge fund Citadel decided to leave Chicago due to employee safety issues. Wonder if this will prompt similar responses in SF. https://nypost.com/2022/09/21/ken-griffins-citadel-left-chic...

That was the company line. Ken Griffin aiming for a cabinet post with DeSantis so that he can divest without paying capital gains taxes is also a likely factor.

https://youtu.be/kiMTRQXBol0?t=4754

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#742

I have commented on SF threads before regarding the violent crime. I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Progressive DA's and a neutered police force are to blame for the rise in violent crime. Many of my friends have taken their remote gigs and left SF in the last 3 years. What's the point in rolling the dice every time you walk outsid…

> I don't think we have figured out if this was premeditated or not, but either way, SF is becoming incredibly dangerous. Jesus, the bubble the typical HN SV commenter must live in. I'm sure it's frustrating to see crime rates increase, but "incredibly dangerous?" SF still has far less crime per capita than many of its peer cities. Where are all the displaced SV millionaires moving with dramatically lower crime rates…

Please edit flamewar swipes out of your posts here. Sneering at the community and promoting regional flamewar are markers of bad threads.

Incidentally, only a small fraction of HN users (10% or so, last I checked) are anywhere near SV. HN is an international forum, which is why we get regional and nationalistic flamewars to begin with.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#743

I don't see what's wrong with SF. /sarcasm SF is the people's choice, no? The people in SF elected DAs who release booked violent criminals right away, multiple times. The people in SF elected politicians who told us, repeatedly and publicly, that looting is a way for people to express their anger or looters were hungry, and violent criminals are victims and questioning their policies are homophobic and racism. The p…

Are you not connecting the dots here at all? You think SF would have headed in this direction if it wasn't heavily gentrified by enormous SF salaries and subsequent nimbyism? It's the same gentrification -> disparity -> flight -> neglect cycle that's happened to lesser degrees elsewhere. This is unique only in its severity.

The government gets happy when rich people move in. The people are happy when rich people move out.

We seriously don't need rich people near us. They have too many whines and gripes and are too resourceful to not stay. I say that as a (mildly) Rich person.

But when a native sees the town go down, the native doesn't just leave. They still stay.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#744

I don't see what's wrong with SF. /sarcasm SF is the people's choice, no? The people in SF elected DAs who release booked violent criminals right away, multiple times. The people in SF elected politicians who told us, repeatedly and publicly, that looting is a way for people to express their anger or looters were hungry, and violent criminals are victims and questioning their policies are homophobic and racism. The p…

Are you not connecting the dots here at all? You think SF would have headed in this direction if it wasn't heavily gentrified by enormous SF salaries and subsequent nimbyism? It's the same gentrification -> disparity -> flight -> neglect cycle that's happened to lesser degrees elsewhere. This is unique only in its severity.

I think the point was that SF is the way it is because of the people who live in SF, which includes the people making those enormous salaries.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#745

Its a real bummer with SF, but the problems are totally self inflicted. If the politics were of a different breed I could see it being one of the best cities to live in the US, let alone the world. Having worked there for close to a decade the stuff I have seen was really depressing. I visited my cousin who works at Ouster nearby for lunch one day and was wondering what all these white casings were littering the grou…

I will fill in the vagueness of your "vote different" statement with specifics of my own: progressive, redistributive policies that radically reduce inequality and that gives a controlling portion of the influence that currently sits with capital owners to the general public. Tax rich people, use the money to steamroll their NIMBYism, and build dense housing and public infrastructure that supports a healthy and susta…

Law enforcement is underfunded (compared to the prevalence of crime) and mismanaged (low standards, low accountability, etc).

Even if you solve housing (NIMBYism, slow permitting process, low-density zoning) crime won't solve itself. (Because organized crime fits in its niche, and doesn't want to give it up. And it'd require changes of federal law to move it.)

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#746

I don't see what's wrong with SF. /sarcasm SF is the people's choice, no? The people in SF elected DAs who release booked violent criminals right away, multiple times. The people in SF elected politicians who told us, repeatedly and publicly, that looting is a way for people to express their anger or looters were hungry, and violent criminals are victims and questioning their policies are homophobic and racism. The p…

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Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#747

Its a real bummer with SF, but the problems are totally self inflicted. If the politics were of a different breed I could see it being one of the best cities to live in the US, let alone the world. Having worked there for close to a decade the stuff I have seen was really depressing. I visited my cousin who works at Ouster nearby for lunch one day and was wondering what all these white casings were littering the grou…

"Ugh it's the woke"

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#748

Can we take a minute to re-direct this conversation away from just the politics of SF? I want to draw attention to Bob Lee, a well-respected technologist and prototype hacker, always curious and sharing lots of interesting technical developments. He was a great role model for how Engineers should be respected in an executive capacity as he advanced his career from 'Software' to 'Product'. His efforts contributed to t…

I agree and am going to partition these threads so that there's a place to remember Bob Lee that isn't an argument about current affairs.

To facilitate this, I've taken the liberty of converting your text here into a new submission (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35457341) and am going to move the relevant comments there. I hope that's ok with you (and if not, let me know and I'll rework this).

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#749

Bob was a good friend, tried to hire me numerous tries at Square, and was my next door neighbor for 3 years. I knew him well and spent a lot of time with him. He will be dearly missed. I have been told from very well placed sources in the US Intelligence community this is probably a hit. That being said, I left San Francisco in 2018 because I was worried I would eventually become the random murder that would finally…

> I have been told from very well placed sources in the US Intelligence community this is probably a hit.

I generally agree with the rest of your post that SF has become a crime-ridden hellhole, but how do they know so quickly? Are they omniscient? Did they have Bob under a scope (if so, why did they not interfere)?

If they really had Bob under a scope for some active intel interaction and some well placed source in the US intel community started talking about this outside (no matter to how close a friend), that someone is going to lose his access, his tongue or his head very quickly. And knows it.

Re: Bob Lee, former CTO of Square, has died after being stabbed in San Francisco

#750

Sounds like SF to me. It has never been "nice". I was commuting to and from work there for over a year back in ~2015 and it was hell then. I interviewed around 2017 in SF and it was so bad I didn't dare walk back to the station (caught an Uber instead). It's a terrible place.

That’s ridiculous. I lived there 2014-2019 and it was delightful. Certainly many bad problems that weren’t getting fixed but ray to day life for most people wasn’t anything like the horror show it’s made out to be.

You must carry around your own alternate reality bubble. I was in SF for 6 months in 2015, by all reports a much safer time than now. I lived adjacent to the Berkeley campus and took the Bart to market street.

Got chased into the street twice, and had someone smear their blood on my jacket another time. I watched people eat morsels out of the gutter, defecate in public, scurried away from cars getting broken into and my Bart station was an open air drug market at 8am. I watched drugged out people wander into traffic, just to see other passersbys scream at the police for interfering. I’ve been to the poorest countries in the world and have never seen anything like the Tenderloin.

Ya’ll can keep SF.

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