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Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by brianmurphy »

mecha_ghidorah wrote: post #611
robryan wrote: post #467

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Sells them on the mission. Things like a colony on Mars and full self driving are pretty compelling goals for some people.

Yeah but I feel like "work on twitter" is way less of a .... shall we say noble/socially fulfilling job. I'd value working on sending people to mars (not to live, just to do a walk on it), it'd make me part of something historic. One day people would write books and make documentaries about the work done to make it happen, and even if I weren't featured for the entire rest of my life if I could tell people "I worked…

Your mistake is looking at what twitter has been in the past and not what it could be with a fast moving entrepreneur driving the ship.

Twitter has been too complacent in the market of communication apps. By all reports, including from Elon himself, big changes are on the way.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by rurp »

pie420 wrote: post #575
lamontcg wrote: post #343

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He can still tweet without a blue checkmark and people will still know who he is.

And what will he do about the hundreds of "RealStephenKing" "OfficialStephenKing" "StephenKingTwitter" accounts that will spring up and start scamming people and linking them to fake websites? How much will that cost Stephen King?

If that becomes the norm then people will probably start caring a lot less about twitter posts in general.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by mecha_ghidorah »

brianmurphy wrote: post #741
mecha_ghidorah wrote: post #611

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but I feel like "work on twitter" is way less of a .... shall we say noble/socially fulfilling job. I'd value working on sending people to mars (not to live, just to do a walk on it), it'd make me part of something historic. One day people would write books and make documentaries about the work done to make it happen, and even if I weren't featured for the entire rest of my life if I could tell people "I worked…

Your mistake is looking at what twitter has been in the past and not what it could be with a fast moving entrepreneur driving the ship. Twitter has been too complacent in the market of communication apps. By all reports, including from Elon himself, big changes are on the way.

Twitter is a social media platform, that space is never going to have the kind of social cache novel space exploration does. It doesn't matter how amazing of a communication app or social media platform it is, as a job it is less epic than working on getting a guy to mars - this is my documentary argument from earlier.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by VectorLock »

Increasing costs for spammers is one of the few effective ways you can combat spammers.

As one of the former heads of product at Twitter said they wanted to add multiple types of badges. You have a badge for verified identities, you have a badge for people who want to remain anonymous but pay to participate so they can provide a hint they're not spammer, and you provide a badge for notable personalities.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by tenpies »

panick21_ wrote: post #690
pkulak wrote: post #454

Elon is the PM from hell. Has some shower thought and starts throwing tickets on everyone's board 45 minutes later. This is why the Model X has those silly doors.

Model X is one of the best selling electric cars in the US and has very large margin for Tesla. It made a lot of news and an differentiates it from other vehicles in the class. I'm not sure I would consider it a failure.

> Model X is one of the best selling electric cars in the US

No, that car is essentially a failure and I'm amazed Tesla hasn't completely cut it from production.

It sold 1,316 units in the US September. They were selling almost 4,000 in September of '18. Even if you wanted to go by year, you're talking about 26,000 sold in the entire US in 2020 (it's best year and I'm ignoring '21 since there was a factory shut down)[1].

It's just not a good vehicle, doesn't sell well, and is utterly unusable if you live anywhere with rain or snow.

[1] https://www.goodcarbadcar.net/tesla-model-x-sales-figures-us...

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by whatshisface »

jjfoooo5 wrote: post #605
MuffinFlavored wrote: post #548

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I wonder what would happen if they introduced some kind of scale (boosting a post? sponsored tweets?) $0 - you barely get heard $8 - you kind of get heard $88 - you really get heard $888 - everybody thinks the exact same thing as you do and you can manipulate portions of the population (lol)

There's no meaningful difference between what you are describing and advertising.

Advertising is a great business to be in apparently, maybe he's diversifying from corporate clients.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by whatshisface »

tptacek wrote: post #513
oceanplexian wrote: post #385

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Everyone can’t buy a checkmark. Bots will be almost impossible to scale at $8/mo, which means if you deprioritize or hide content from bots without the check, Twitter has a realistic shot at eliminating the bot problem.

Bots are probably a very big problem for a small subset of Twitter users, like Musk himself, who is positively swarmed with them. But the median Twitter user is unlikely to care about this problem to the tune of several dollars a month. I get a crypto spam message about once every other day. I wouldn't pay anything to take care of that problem, because it's just not big enough to care about. I think it's more likely…

If you took away the publicity angle (which Elon Musk can't take away but we can hypothetically), Stephen King's social media professionals might pay $800/month and not even tell him if that's what helped accomplish their goals.

Re: Twitter Blue for $8/Month

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Post by mecha_ghidorah »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #691
mecha_ghidorah wrote: post #611

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Yeah but I feel like "work on twitter" is way less of a .... shall we say noble/socially fulfilling job. I'd value working on sending people to mars (not to live, just to do a walk on it), it'd make me part of something historic. One day people would write books and make documentaries about the work done to make it happen, and even if I weren't featured for the entire rest of my life if I could tell people "I worked…

I'm sure Elon will have a mission statement that will appeal to some people. Imagine a new form of news and communication that solves all of our social woes, allows people to be informed, and have constructive discourse. That would be world changing. I'm not saying Twitter could ever be that. But maybe someone else could be convinced it is possible.

> Imagine a new form of news and communication that solves all of our social woes, allows people to be informed, and have constructive discourse.

I did imagine that happening once - I imagined the internet would lead to that. The state of things now is very different from what the me of 15 years ago imagined, in part because of things like twitter in fact. I now believe that social woes have significant parts that aren't just misunderstandings they are big problems that can't be solved only through dialogue. Further many of the misunderstandings are actually deliberate misrepresentations - how many people who are pro-choice have you seen making the incredibly bad faith argument that pro-lifers just want to control/punish women? (Note I am pro-choice myself, but that particular argument is a really shitty obviously untrue argument and I see it constantly and it really gives me the shits).

> I'm sure Elon will have a mission statement that will appeal to some people. This I do agree with, but I think the pool of people that are willing to work crazy hours at sub-standard pay is smaller when the work is making whatever Musk's improved version of twitter looks like than it is for putting someone on mars or making electric cars mainstream.

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