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Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Ah an individual data point, the crème de la crème of evidence.

I have not heard of any other developers needing to furnish references either. Just ask on HN or Reddit or Twitter, most devs will say they're not needed.

I've had to provide them for 3/4 positions so far (in Australia), and have provided many references - usually over a phone call with a hiring manager.

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You said that’s not what happened in reply to me, and I cited that it did happen. I’m just backing up my own assertions, nothing to do with you. And they certainly banned plenty of conservatives for their views. It was just first framed as “misinformation” and then banned. Examples include Covid skepticism, Hunters laptop, and honestly a litany more.

COVID skepticism is… I mean COVID is real? Hunter Biden’s laptop? The laptop that no one can produce, that there are no records existed, and supposedly copies of the data exist but aren’t being looked at for reasons? Those aren’t the slam dunk arguments you seem to think they are.

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Well to be honest, Musk and his team looked at quantity/quality of code produced in the last 60 days, with hopefully a 10 minute chance to defend their lack of quantity/quality. Lots of coasters in big companies can get with good rating just be being on the good side of manager/peers and even get Bonus points if you are vocal about DEI and activism.

He had them print off their last 30-60 days of git commits and called himself a "hardcore coder" in DM's with Parag I really doubt he's qualified to comment on the existing infrastructure behind Twitter. He's a really good marketer, a good businessman but I do not think he knows what he is doing when he requests access to the codebase behind a massively distributed and scalable system such as Twitters backend

Then you don't understand Elon and making the same mistake of evaluating him superficially.

People like Walter Isaacson have a better opinion about him

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Evidently Musk had Tweeps work all weekend on the new Verified feature lest they get fired, and some were fired "for cause" anyway. https://twitter.com/GergelyOrosz/status/1587029446061686784

It's not a good idea to conflate layoffs of the rank-and-file with the 3 execs that were fired "for cause". At the exec level, it's a whole different ballgame. All of these execs are multi, multi millionaires. I'd honestly be pretty shocked if they don't sue, and at least from what I know now I'd be shocked if they don't win. In exec contracts with golden parachutes, "for cause" clauses are almost always very specifi…

I would fire the key execs also, if it appears they conspired to hide evidence from the court, frustrate discovery, and used fraudulent metrics.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1586885887341645824

I have a hard time believing there was not complicity between the 3 key execs, and Yoel Roth, according to that image.

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Selective empathy is on the path to becoming a sociopath

Relative empathy is part of being a regular human being. If someone has 10 lollipops and loses 1, that’s not “selective empathy” to feel differently than about someone else who has 1 lollipop and loses everything.

One job one person, the rest is all assumptions. How much they made, their stock options, financial situation. Maybe they are paying for their nephews cancer treatment or something.

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This may be true in the short term but eventually more of these decisions begin to accumulate and cause more dissatisfaction. Each one on its own has barely any impact on the bottom line, it's just one more cut among a hundred cuts. In the end you end up with a product that is overall annoying to use. And the whole time you could be going along, measuring each decision and thinking that you're doing okay and no mista…

Agreed, just following data can be a dangerous path. You have to build things because they’re the right thing to build. You need a cohesive vision not scattershot A-B tests. Unless you only care about short term profit, of course. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. That’s why the Facebooks die and the Apples and Googles last.

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Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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Of course not, I would expect him to say nothing in that case. Honestly, it's pretty ridiculous how people conflate "Elon is a bad guy who stretches the truth all the time" with him sending out a completely unambiguous statement that, if it were a lie, would easily be proven wrong in one day. Point being, people who do stretch the truth/over-promise know how to do it in a way that isn't falsifiable in 24 hours.

Hd did said and tweeted outright lies in the past. Lying is not out character for him.

Again, the outright lies he tweeted were not something that were provably false in less than 24 hours.

Just consider his infamous "Funding secured" tweet. I considered that a lie, but there is obviously enough wiggle room/deniability over what "secured" actually means. That's not the case here.

In any case, the deadline has already passed. If there were to have been mass layoffs before the Nov 1 deadline, it's too late.

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I still have a lot of respect for Musk as bold business exec. But my respect for him as a person dropped to near-zero when he promoted the baseless conspiracy theory about Paul Pelosi.

He didn’t. Look at context.

How vague. What is the context that makes that post ok?

Re: Musk’s inner circle worked through weekend to cement Twitter layoff plans

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It's a damn shame if they lay them off a day before stock grants and they get none. I would absolutely sue if it was me. These are people who have been working hard and it would be a damn damn shame if their efforts were met with a screwing over. If I had a boss like this, I absolutely would not stay even if I didn't get laid off.

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> Another person familiar with the deal who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters last week said the total number of layoffs is likely to be closer to 50 percent. Unless I’m missing something, the only sources for this article are a mix of speculation and anonymous sources who can’t even agree with each other about the layoff.

This is how high quality journalism works. There's actually quite an involved skill to reading and fully understanding this kind of writing - and it's infuriatingly difficult to pick up that skill (I've been developing it by spending time talking to professional journalists, but I'm still not there yet). When you read "another person familiar with the deal who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive…

Wapo definitely does independent fact checking. That's how they caught the Project Veritas "sting" so trivially.
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