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The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by assttoasstmgr »

disqard wrote: post #733
assttoasstmgr wrote: post #719

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I still buy hard media (which makes me a Luddite apparently) because I consider it art and refuse to pay for digital media that is allegedly perpetual and then one day it goes missing because the wokes decided it should be memory holed. One of many, many examples: https://screenrant.com/its-always-sunny-blackface-episodes-m... Even things like iTunes Music Store which once claimed that all your past purchases are ava…

I'm in your camp, but I think you used the antonym of the word you intended to: "ephemeral" vs. "eternal" :)

You are correct, thank you. I blame lack of sleep and coffee. :)

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by rc_mob »

dehrmann wrote: post #296

I'd be careful to make a claim as big as "the bottom is dropping out," but Netflix is facing a few headwinds. - Lots of competition, some more serious (Disney+) than others (Amazon) - Nearing the top of the streaming adoption curve - End of the stay-at-home covid bump The covid impact is noise in the long (5+ years) term. Reaching full adoption is a sign of maturity overtaking growth. You run the company differently,…

Hi. You are 1000 times smarter than the idiot author of the article. The linked article mentions none of these.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by brimble »

chrisseaton wrote: post #704
GekkePrutser wrote: post #703

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> What stops you buying on iTunes for example? DRM. If it's DRM your still don't own anything

You never ‘owned’ any copy - you only had a licence.

Try selling a Blu Ray. Now try selling a movie you bought on iTunes.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by mason55 »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #740
brimble wrote: post #728

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I would do a whole lot more digital rentals if the prices weren't so damn high. How is it that it can be significantly cheaper to rent the physical disk than to stream the movie once? How can I watch 20 hours of stuff on HBO in 4k for like $10 or $12 or whatever that runs now for a month, but a single 2-hour movie is $5? It'd also help a lot if I didn't need a different "app" for every store, with its own player UI.…

> How is it that it can be significantly cheaper to rent the physical disk than to stream the movie once? Price discrimination or price segmentation is the technical name. If you are selling an identical good which has near zero marginal cost to reproduce, then the way to maximize your profit is to sell it to each person for the maximum they are willing to pay. Ideally, you want to sell (or rent) the same movie or tv…

To put it another way, you're literally paying for convenience.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by ghaff »

LVB wrote: post #738
svachalek wrote: post #708

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Netflix used to be an unlimited dvd rental service. It turned into the same thing without the mail step, so of course we stopped using it. I think if we had known what streaming would look like today, a lot of people including myself would have held on tighter.

I let go of DVDs for quite some time but have re-enabled https://dvd.netflix.com recently. Good selection, plus the much slower act of selecting, receiving and exchanging is sort of a welcome restricted diet compared to the endless buffet over the past decade.

It's OK although the back catalog has rotted a lot. I suspect that they repurchase a lot fewer disks that have been reported as defective for older films. I agree in general that most people dismiss this as an option--or even consider it weird--but many people I know who are much more into films than TV find this a good option. I do off-and-on myself.

Re: The bottom is dropping out of Netflix

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Post by pHollda »

jdlshore wrote: post #302
rybosworld wrote: post #249

The original content is 99% garbage. Every streaming service has this problem, though. The series that are really well made are few and far between. E.g. - Narcos - Ozark - House of Cards - Stranger Things For every good show, I see another few dozen that I can't bear to sit through. Stuffing the catalogue with filler is reminiscent of cable.

The problem with this analysis is that it assume everyone has the same tastes, and stuff you don't personally like is "garbage." The reality is that people have a lot of different tastes. I don't think you should judge Netflix by what you don't like; only by whether it has enough of the things that you do like. For example, I've been enjoying "Handsome Siblings," a Chinese wuxia show that's pretty shallow. It's not g…

Taste is not subjective. The critics (cc Metacritic, >>> Rotten Tomatoes) are usually right about TV/film.

Decent Netflix TV: Maid, Unbelievable, Ozark, Narcos, Bloodline, Mindhunter, Black Mirror, Sweet Tooth.

They average like one decent TV show every 18 months. It's an absolute disaster.

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Post by ghaff »

jbverschoor wrote: post #688
lostcolony wrote: post #673

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The cost is part of the reasons those never really caught on, not just participation. The number of titles I (and I assume, most people) will watch enough to warrant paying $20 for is vanishingly small. Even $4 a rental is a hard bar to pass at this point with streaming competing. $1-2 to rent though? I'd be all over that. Weirdly, that's the cost to rent a physical disk at Redbox...but an on demand title anywhere is…

The problem with pay per item is that they try to stretch and tretch the amount of items/movies/episodes you watch. Netflix overdid it with making everything a serie. It's super annoying, and I simply don' have the energie to start another serie simply because Netflix's analytics say that it's better for engagement that you have use the serie format instead of a simple movie. It has very little to do with the actual…

This happened irrespective of Netflix streaming. Breaking Bad, The Sopranos, BSG, Lost, etc. The thing is serial was fairly annoying if you had to be in front of the TV on Wednesday at 9pm every week to watch something. People would do it for a must-watch miniseries. But as soon as you could do on-demand it was a nice format for a lot of things.

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Post by elenaferrantes »

bin_bash wrote: post #345
californical wrote: post #314

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Is it really stealing if they wouldn’t have ever paid for it in the first place? If it’s not easy to find and use on a subscription service that I already have, I’m just not gonna try to search for it or pay for it. What difference would it make if I pirated it and watched it anyways? (FWIW I personally don’t pirate anything, I just really don’t see the merit to the “stealing” argument)

> Is it really stealing if they wouldn’t have ever paid for it in the first place? Since when does it matter if I would've paid for it? If someone steals a Mercedes from a dealer is it not stealing if they wouldn't have bought it anyways?

Say A makes a film. Situation 1 : B do not watch the film a do something else. Situation 2 : B downloads the film from P2P network and watch it. What is the difference for A ?
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