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Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by frabjoused »

amasad wrote: post #682
tommoor wrote: post #634

> we’re also excited to announce one of the first (of many!) projects that Amjad has worked on with us: Codecademy Labs, the easiest way to play with JavaScript, Ruby, and Python online I'll just leave this here so we can all bask in the insane hypocrisy of this entire episode. https://www.codecademy.com/resources/blog/amjad-joins-codeca... Edit: See Amjad's response below – seems Repl.it may have pre-dated this hiri…

That was a clone of Replit that we made work at Codecademy. I started working on Replit (or repl.it) back when I was a student in Jordan. I didn't have a laptop so every time I wanted to get some programming done I had to setup a development environment at the university or at work. The idea for Replit was when you needed a repl to do some coding you should easily get one from anywhere including a mobile device. I th…

I wouldn't recommend attempting a rebuttal when you've just hit the top 30 HN posts of all time. Pretty much your best option is to apologize.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by truetraveller »

simonhamp wrote: post #656
tommoor wrote: post #634

> we’re also excited to announce one of the first (of many!) projects that Amjad has worked on with us: Codecademy Labs, the easiest way to play with JavaScript, Ruby, and Python online I'll just leave this here so we can all bask in the insane hypocrisy of this entire episode. https://www.codecademy.com/resources/blog/amjad-joins-codeca... Edit: See Amjad's response below – seems Repl.it may have pre-dated this hiri…

Cheaters always watching over their shoulder. How can you trust people if you know they can't trust you? Or worse, you can't trust yourself!

Simon, this is a wrong reply. Tone down the rhetoric a notch, please.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by truetraveller »

ztratar wrote: post #740
simonhamp wrote: post #656

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheaters always watching over their shoulder. How can you trust people if you know they can't trust you? Or worse, you can't trust yourself!

Just going out to say the amount of speculation on this thread combined with character assassination is pretty shitty. This is one side of the story, we don't have much evidence either direction, and it's not clear there was any "cheating" involved in anyone's past. HN should do better.

Couldn't agree more.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by threatofrain »

ztratar wrote: post #740
simonhamp wrote: post #656

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cheaters always watching over their shoulder. How can you trust people if you know they can't trust you? Or worse, you can't trust yourself!

Just going out to say the amount of speculation on this thread combined with character assassination is pretty shitty. This is one side of the story, we don't have much evidence either direction, and it's not clear there was any "cheating" involved in anyone's past. HN should do better.

The CEO Amjad Masad has responded in this post.

This is a story told with receipts, and receipts carry a weight of their own. Namely, private emails made public. You can see for yourself whether you'll ever see the other side speak through the language of receipts.

So far all he has done is double down on the story told through the emails.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by ztratar »

Driko04 wrote: post #245

anyone who has ever interviewed with Amjad knows hes two-faced. He had a posting for a marketing position open forever and would have you work about 3 weeks for the interview. He would ask for marketing campaigns and how to implementing them. thinking that he was testing your skill set but actually just stealing ideas. I use to use Repl.it but forget. I really hope this company burns. He lacks the understanding of wh…

Just want to call this post out, as it sounds like someone who didn't pass an interview and is now very biased.

I know the Repl.it team, including Amjad, and they're all some very upstanding people. I'm biased myself.

Often there are localized judgement errors, and treating people via threat of the law is both a mistake (IMO) and also an unfortunately reality for running a company. It's hard to make a determination of what we'd all do if not in the shoes where a former employee is potentially stealing your code/IP.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by truetraveller »

amasad wrote: post #682
tommoor wrote: post #634

> we’re also excited to announce one of the first (of many!) projects that Amjad has worked on with us: Codecademy Labs, the easiest way to play with JavaScript, Ruby, and Python online I'll just leave this here so we can all bask in the insane hypocrisy of this entire episode. https://www.codecademy.com/resources/blog/amjad-joins-codeca... Edit: See Amjad's response below – seems Repl.it may have pre-dated this hiri…

That was a clone of Replit that we made work at Codecademy. I started working on Replit (or repl.it) back when I was a student in Jordan. I didn't have a laptop so every time I wanted to get some programming done I had to setup a development environment at the university or at work. The idea for Replit was when you needed a repl to do some coding you should easily get one from anywhere including a mobile device. I th…

Amjad, don't worry about some of the HN crowd putting you down. When a non-compete agreement is signed, it must be honored. Some (not all) of these people are in my opinion, hypocritical and/or jealous and/or just plain evil. They want to see you go down.

If you must, issue an "apology" to appease these obnoxious folk. Unfortunately, that's how the world is nowadays.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by DangitBobby »

protoduction wrote: post #737
DangitBobby wrote: post #713

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I only want something with slightly less friction than a jupyter notebook but better for controlled editing that an ipython shell. Something that doesnt make any files on my filesystem or anything else that I have to clean up later. That's why I'm looking for an online repl! Okay, I can live with having to be logged in because it keeps me logged in for a long time, but do I really need to figure out what I want to ca…

I'm building Starboard, https://starboard.gg , maybe that fits your needs? It runs in the browser itself and is open source.

Oooh this is very neat! I love the confetti button part of the demo. I will try to remember this next time I reach for an online repl.

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by phonon »

truetraveller wrote: post #747
amasad wrote: post #682

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was a clone of Replit that we made work at Codecademy. I started working on Replit (or repl.it) back when I was a student in Jordan. I didn't have a laptop so every time I wanted to get some programming done I had to setup a development environment at the university or at work. The idea for Replit was when you needed a repl to do some coding you should easily get one from anywhere including a mobile device. I th…

Amjad, don't worry about some of the HN crowd putting you down. When a non-compete agreement is signed, it must be honored. Some (not all) of these people are in my opinion, hypocritical and/or jealous and/or just plain evil. They want to see you go down. If you must, issue an "apology" to appease these obnoxious folk. Unfortunately, that's how the world is nowadays.

> When a non-compete agreement is signed, it must be honored.

Not correct; it's considered against public policy in California.

https://www.employmentrightscalifornia.com/can-my-california...

حَدَّثَنَا مُسَدَّدٌ، حَدَّثَنَا يَحْيَى، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ، قَالَ حَدَّثَنِي نَافِعٌ، عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم‏.‏ وَحَدَّثَنِي مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ صَبَّاحٍ، حَدَّثَنَا إِسْمَاعِيلُ بْنُ زَكَرِيَّاءَ، عَنْ عُبَيْدِ اللَّهِ، عَنْ نَافِعٍ، عَنِ ابْنِ عُمَرَ ـ رضى الله عنهما ـ عَنِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم قَالَ ‏ "‏ السَّمْعُ وَالطَّاعَةُ حَقٌّ، مَا لَمْ يُؤْمَرْ بِالْمَعْصِيَةِ، فَإِذَا أُمِرَ بِمَعْصِيَةٍ فَلاَ سَمْعَ وَلاَ طَاعَةَ ‏"‏‏.‏

Re: Replit used legal threats to kill my open-source project

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Post by truetraveller »

whoisjuan wrote: post #695
amasad wrote: post #682

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That was a clone of Replit that we made work at Codecademy. I started working on Replit (or repl.it) back when I was a student in Jordan. I didn't have a laptop so every time I wanted to get some programming done I had to setup a development environment at the university or at work. The idea for Replit was when you needed a repl to do some coding you should easily get one from anywhere including a mobile device. I th…

Could you explain roughly what was the biggest tell that he copied Replit's architecture patterns? No need to go into details, but perhaps this would make your side of the story more clear. So far we only have seen Radon's post and emails screenshots. He seems to be very adamant about not copying any of Replit's IP. But clearly every story has two sides and I think it's very important to hear yours. Hopefully it will…

Copied or not, if he signed a non-compete, he is violating the agreement. His project absolutely competes with Replit. Do you agree with this?
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